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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You can give your grandma power of attorney and you can give your grandma total inheritance of your estate. However, if you were having an intimate relationship with your grandma, the state has a vested interest in stopping said relationship due to the genetic issues involved in your procreating with grandma.
    Grandma is too old to procreate.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

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    Good luck with that position in the courts.
    It was actually a Supreme Court justice who said that on the topic of hate speech.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Grandma is too old to procreate.
    Supposedly. Stranger things have happened.

    And that's beside the point. We have social mores that make it clear that an intimate relationship between and grandparent and grandchild are not acceptable. In fact, I think we have actual laws against it.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Grandma is too old to procreate.
    Then there is no vested interest for the state to interfere.

    I would also like to point out the delta between marriage and children - the two are not dependent on each other.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post

    Did you read the quoted part? Mr.V was clearly talking about the defination and not about changing the law.
    Read the OP again. Its about changing the law.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Homosexuality is an orientation. What they do in the bedroom is a behavior. One is the way a person is.
    A way a person is? What does that mean?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    A way a person is? What does that mean?
    Orientation =/= behaviour. One can be a straight male and have sex with men, or be a gay male and have sex with women.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Warspite View Post
    It was actually a Supreme Court justice who said that on the topic of hate speech.
    I was referring to your position that any "two consenting adults of equal standing" should be allowed to marry, or it is a civil rights issue.

    No Supreme Court justice is going to agree with that.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Grandma is too old to procreate.
    Then tell her to whip out those false teeth 'cause I wanna suck on her gums.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Supposedly. Stranger things have happened.

    And that's beside the point. We have social mores that make it clear that an intimate relationship between and grandparent and grandchild are not acceptable. In fact, I think we have actual laws against it.
    Yes, I agree, not acceptable. Not an infringement on civil rights.

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