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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    How is my rights any more than theirs? I can't marry a guy either. But guess what? I can't shack up with a woman and get the same "domestic partnership" rights that they do. Which is something I don't understand. They get all the rights and privileges a married couple gets without the red tape of a marriage license yet a heterosexual non married couple doesn't and you're complaining about gay rights? Give me a break. Like other minorities, they don't want equal rights, they want special rights. But here's a clue: they can get married. They can have the $20K dream wedding, even get the Pope himself to perform the ceremony if he is so inclined. Nothing is stopping them. No, they want the piece of paper. Hell, if I got the same privileges they got without the legal hassle when my first marriage went to pot, I'd have never gotten married in the first place. So, in a sense I don't have the same rights as they do. They can adopt as a couple, put each other on their insurance, live together for a million years if they want but the whole issue is over a little piece of paper. Please.
    If you were talking about a black person marrying a white person in Virginia 40 years ago you would not look out of place. "I can't marry black people either".
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Inequality compared to the rest of the world?



    You left out the part about how the chuches decided there was no theological reason against mixed marriages.
    http://www.gaychurch.org/Find_a_Chur...s/us_texas.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    as i've said before, a marriage outside a church is nothing more than a civil union anyway. i really don't understand what the problem is. a WORD?
    I was not married in a church. Yet I am married. A building is not necessary for a marriage.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Warspite View Post
    If you were talking about a black person marrying a white person in Virginia 40 years ago you would not look out of place. "I can't marry black people either".
    Stop trying to equate being gay with being black. It's insulting to black people to infer that gay people are a "race".

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Stop trying to equate being gay with being black. It's insulting to black people to infer that gay people are a "race".
    Okay fine then use gender discrimination. A man can do something a woman can not do marry a woman.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Stop trying to equate being gay with being black. It's insulting to black people to infer that gay people are a "race".
    Both have been and are oppressed social groups - it is more offensive to say that equality is merely an issue of race.

    I am not saying homosexuals are a race, I am saying the arguments used then are the same used now.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Because this isn't about expanding the definition of a word. Its about changing the law.

    Did you read the quoted part? Mr.V was clearly talking about the defination and not about changing the law.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Separate but equal referred to race not sexual behavior.
    Homosexuality is an orientation. What they do in the bedroom is a behavior. One is the way a person is. The other is an act.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Homosexuality is an orientation. What they do in the bedroom is a behavior. One is the way a person is. The other is an act.
    Orientation does not necessarily entail behaviour - prime example; I am a homosexual, but I also choose to have sex with women.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Warspite View Post
    Orientation does not necessarily entail behaviour - prime example; I am a homosexual, but I also choose to have sex with women.
    Exactly. (10 char)
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