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New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

CrusaderRabbit08 said:
You're very confused. Remember, states are bound by the provisions of the 14th amendment and can't vote in discriminatory laws and expect them to last. At some point the courts will step in, apply the Constitution and shoot these anti-GM laws down. It'll happen soon enough.
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Please go back and read the thread my left wing friend........we have covered the 14th amendment in depth and its ramifications on all citizens, not just gays..........
 
Something that all of you that think that homosexuality is "unnatural" should think about..... 99.99% of all technology is "unnatural".
 
Navy Pride said:
I am not the one confused my left wing friend.........That is how we do it here....We voted our politicians in and if they do something we don't like we vote the subject by a referendum...........That is exactly what happened in liberal Caifornia........
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You're leaving out an important part my GED friend.

We elect leaders. They appoint justices. When the politicians and/or people amend a state constitution in such a way that it violates the Bill of Rights, then the Federal Court system is set up to remedy this.

The California ballot measure procedures need to be reformed. It leaves state law too vulnerable to special interests as in the case with Prop 8 where a ton of out of state money went toward misinforming the public.
 
Navy Pride said:
DD is a ambulance chaser (Lawyer) .He thinks he is in a court room.....do you notice how he diverts from the subject of this thread over and over again and trys tto make me the subject........
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No....Navy...an "Ambulance Chaser" is a term for a personal injury lawyer. I don't do that kind of law.
 
Navy Pride said:
You don't know that the anus primary mission is to expel fece?:roll:
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I love how you say "primary mission" like it has a commander. Do you consider anal sex to be insubordination of the anus?
 
hazlnut said:
You're leaving out an important part my GED friend.

We elect leaders. They appoint justices. When the politicians and/or people amend a state constitution in such a way that it violates the Bill of Rights, then the Federal Court system is set up to remedy this.

The California ballot measure procedures need to be reformed. It leaves state law too vulnerable to special interests as in the case with Prop 8 where a ton of out of state money went toward misinforming the public.
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But in your mind its OK for a bunch of judges to make law instead of interpret it..........The people of California voted twice against gay marriage.........What is it going to take to make you lefties believe they don't want it?????
 
CriticalThought said:
I love how you say "primary mission" like it has a commander. Do you consider anal sex to be insubordination of the anus?
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My own personal opinion is I consider anal sex disgusting but again that is not what this is about......Again I will say what 2 people do in the privacy of their bedroom whether they be straight or gay I could care less...........Don't tell me about it........
 
Navy Pride said:
My own personal opinion is I consider anal sex disgusting but again that is not what this is about......Again I will say what 2 people do in the privacy of their bedroom whether they be straight or gay I could care less...........Don't tell me about it........
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It seems to me you seem to care about it an awful lot if you are using it for an argument against same sex marriage.
 
CriticalThought said:
It seems to me you seem to care about it an awful lot if you are using it for an argument against same sex marriage.
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I am not my left wing friend nor did I bring it up........Again if you want to participate in this thread read all the posts and try and catch up or I will just ignore your redundent posts...thanks.......
 
Navy Pride said:
Because that is his given name.......
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Right. :roll:

Please don't try and play stupid with me and be honest. I know you can't because the reason is bull****, but oh well.

Navy Pride said:
Guess you have not been around for the last 10 months...Do you have any idea how much a trillion dollars is?

They are just the biggest deficits in the history of this country............Hussein Obama has spent more money then the combined spending of all the presidents since the American revolution........Your kids (if you have kids) are going to pay for it my friend.........
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You mean like the children who have been paying since we have had a debt?

Navy Pride said:
Hmmm 85 percent of this country are jewish or christian....To me that makes it a judeo christian country..........
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No it does not. They also do not make up 85%.

Jewish Population of the US: 1.7%
Christian Population of the US: 78.5%

This is a nation of predominantly Christians, this is not a Christian nation.

Navy Pride said:
I wonder do you call Iraq or Saudi Arabia a Muslim country? Why do you have a problem callin the U.S. a Judeo Christian country?
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Iraq is under Shira law or mite as well be, and will become a complete theocracy after we leave. Saudi Arabia has a King who makes the laws and can call the country whatever he wishes.

We are not a theocracy nor do we have a King. We the people are the government, all the people Christian, Buddhist and Muslim alike. That my friend is the difference.

This is a nation of free men. Free to chose the religion they like with no interference from the government. Our government is not run by clerics, but elected officials. Elected by and for the people, all the people.
 
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Right.
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Check his birth certificate if he has one.....


You mean like the children who have been paying since we have had a debt?
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If Obama gets his way that will be chicken feed....

No it does not. They also do not make up 85%
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80% so sue me


Iraq is under Shira law or mite as well be, and will become a complete theocracy after we leave. Saudi Arabia has a King who makes the laws and can call the country whatever he wishes.

We are not a theocracy nor do we have a King. We the people are the government, all the people Christian, Buddhist and Muslim alike. That my friend is the difference.

This is a nation of free men. Free to chose the religion they like with no interference from the government. Our government is not run by clerics, but elected officials. Elected by and for the people, all the people.
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A arab is and arab my left wing friend........
 
Navy Pride said:
You don't know that the anus primary mission is to expel fece?:roll:
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"Primary" suggests a secondary "mission". Obviously you think that is not all that it is used for?

Navy Pride said:
But in your mind its OK for a bunch of judges to make law instead of interpret it..........The people of California voted twice against gay marriage.........What is it going to take to make you lefties believe they don't want it?????
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Judges do not make law. No matter how much you say otherwise it will not make it true. They can strike down laws that are not constitutional though.

As for voting against gay marriage? I'm sure that people voted against interracial marriages before Loving vs Virginia also.

Point being that our Constitution is setup in such a way as to cater to individual rights. Not what the majority thinks is right. Otherwise there would still be segregation.
 
Navy Pride said:
Check his birth certificate if he has one.....
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Hmmm... Tin Foil hat?

I notice you ignored the rest. That does say allot.

Navy Pride said:
If Obama gets his way that will be chicken feed....
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Not if you compare it to the relative inflation etc of the time.

Navy Pride said:
80% so sue me
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Again you ignore my point.

Navy Pride said:
A arab is and arab my left wing friend........
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Hmmm... Blatant bigotry and then calls me a "leftist?" :roll:

Again ignoring my point.

I guess that is it then.

Thanks for nothing.


PS This is not the statement of a leftist, but a founding father...

Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his Maker in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to intermeddle (letter to Robert Rush, 1813). - Thomas Jefferson

This is a nation of free men. Free to chose the religion they like with no interference from the government. Our government is not run by clerics, but elected officials. Elected by and for the people, all the people. - Blackdog

As a leftist, it would appear I am in very good company. Very good indeed.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Something that all of you that think that homosexuality is "unnatural" should think about..... 99.99% of all technology is "unnatural".
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The primary mission of fingers is not to type on a keyboard.
Shame on all of you who indulge in this unnatural activity.
 
Ethereal said:
You're very confused. I have no problem with gay marriage or polygamy. My statement was purposely meant to be silly...
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The old troll thanked you. Sorry. :2wave:
 
bicycleman said:
It's not my opinon, but merely the truth, and perhaps we should hear from Navy Pride, since his interpreters are not doing a good job. Better still, what does God have to say about this arrangement?
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No, it's not the truth, it is your opinion. If it was the truth, you'd have some substantiation to back up your claim.

So here you go... your comment:

bicycleman said:
Marriage shoud take place before a child is born.
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Prove it is a fact with evidence.
 
Navy Pride said:
Never, 14th amendment also applies to polygamy, and other groups defined by their sexual preference......you want them to marry to my left wing friend......well if you allow gays you have to allow them........

You even have to allow fathers and daughters, daughters and mothers, fahers and sons, etc who want to marry for the benefits provided. They would of course refrain from all sexual activity....

All of these people are protected by the 14th amendment you so flippantly quote........You allow gays, you have to allow them to.............
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NP, this is a slippery slope argument that I have debunked several times in the past. The issue is that the government supports marriage because it benefits society... for several reasons. There is a wealth of evidence that shows that gay marriage will benefit society. There is NO evidence that polygamy nor incestuous marriage would benefit society. This is why neither of these will be seen. GM, however DOES benefit society. That is the difference and why the polygamy/incest position holds no water. It is not comparable and therefore not relevant.
 
Navy Pride said:
Because that is his given name.......

Guess you have not been around for the last 10 months...Do you have any idea how much a trillion dollars is?

They are just the biggest deficits in the history of this country............Hussein Obama has spent more money then the combined spending of all the presidents since the American revolution........Your kids (if you have kids) are going to pay for it my friend.........

Hmmm 85 percent of this country are jewish or christian....To me that makes it a judeo christian country..........

I wonder do you call Iraq or Saudi Arabia a Muslim country? Why do you have a problem callin the U.S. a Judeo Christian country?
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NP... I am asking you as a friend to stop using the "Hussein Obama" comment. It is baiting and you know very well why you are doing it. Please. Stop.
 
Kal'Stang said:
"Primary" suggests a secondary "mission". Obviously you think that is not all that it is used for?
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It expels more than feces! :fart
 
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