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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

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    Some thing that is not normal is not automatically abnormal. You would probably call my 36 year old autistic son abnormal.

    Again you have to take me out of context and make your own theories the way of the debate.
    No, I would call your autistic son not average or not of the norm. I would NOT call him abnormal. Different contexts. YOU are confused over the definition of words, so I will ask AGAIN: are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Some thing that is not normal is not automatically abnormal. You would probably call my 36 year old autistic son abnormal.

    Again you have to take me out of context and make your own theories the way of the debate.
    Perhaps your semantics are just poorly chosen.

    When most people say something is "not normal" they are referring to it being "abnormal".

    Perhaps what you are trying to say is that it is not "the norm" or the predominant view.

    I think it may simply have been a poor choice of words on your part.

    Agree?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is where we part way CC and you know it.........Blacks are a minority, they are born that way......Gays are a group of people that are defined by their lifestyle......Huge difference.......Now i know what your going to come back with that Gays are born that way but I believe the jury is out on that.......
    Well said. Which is exactly why believing they are born gay is a faith based belief and not something you base law upon.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Navy....you are having a conversation all to yourself. Please....if you ar going to participate in this converation, please keep on topic....we aren't talking the "norm" or "average"....we are talking normal v. abnormal.

    If you want to start a different conversation on the "norm"...feel free.
    Nope, I believe the topic is gay marriage in NJ.....I let you get me off of that so your right lets get back on it...........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is where we part way CC and you know it.........Blacks are a minority, they are born that way......Gays are a group of people that are defined by their lifestyle......Huge difference.......Now i know what your going to come back with that Gays are born that way but I believe the jury is out on that.......
    Actually, I'm not going to claim that gays are born that way, NP, because you are correct. How sexual orientation develops is unknown. There are theories, but nothing conclusive. However, gays are NOT defined by their lifestyle. In fact, I have no idea what a gay lifestyle is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is where we part way CC and you know it.........Blacks are a minority, they are born that way......Gays are a group of people that are defined by their lifestyle......Huge difference.......Now i know what your going to come back with that Gays are born that way but I believe the jury is out on that.......
    If the "jury is out" then why are you stating with absolution that people are not born gay. Seems like you are being a little inconsistent here.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Nope, I believe the topic is gay marriage in NJ.....I let you get me off of that so your right lets get back on it...........
    I didn't start this conversation with you Navy....you jumped into a conversation that was taking place between CC and Ptif that I was participating in as well....but nice try.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Well said. Which is exactly why believing they are born gay is a faith based belief and not something you base law upon.
    We have no idea, other than theories how any time of sexual orientation develops... hetero or homo.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You've changed the word. Tell us... and this is a yes or no question... are blacks normal?
    Normal to what? You can't just is something normal and not say to what. Are the normal people yes are they the normal for this country in race. I think that is hard since there are so many races here. Are white the normal I think not anymore since many races have caught us there is no longer a normal but many are normal.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Actually, I'm not going to claim that gays are born that way, NP, because you are correct. How sexual orientation develops is unknown. There are theories, but nothing conclusive. However, gays are NOT defined by their lifestyle. In fact, I have no idea what a gay lifestyle is.
    I think a gay lifestyle can be defined as when two people of the same sex engage in sexual relations or whhatever you want to call it............
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