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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Because it's a legislative initiative that's defining this issue, a voice from the We the People rather than a tiny court ruled over by activist judges or some city steps circus like the San Francisco Mayor pulled in SF.
    You missed my point entirely. In NJ, with gay civil unions, gay couples have the same benefits, I believe as straight married couples. My point is, that if GM gets defeated in NJ, the only loss is the loss of a word.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I guess I don't see it that way. I can understand the frustration of not being able to use the word "marriage", but since, as far as I know, all of the benefits of being "married" are afforded those who have civil unions, I don't see this as a defeat or setback. Just how I see it though.
    I don't think any one group has exclusive rights to the word marriage.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Because it's a legislative initiative that's defining this issue, a voice from the We the People rather than a tiny court ruled over by activist judges or some city steps circus like the San Francisco Mayor pulled in SF.
    Amen to that.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I've generally found that they're only "activist" judges when they disagree with your view.
    How many times have you seen judges making conservative laws from the bench? Hmmm?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You missed my point entirely. In NJ, with gay civil unions, gay couples have the same benefits, I believe as straight married couples. My point is, that if GM gets defeated in NJ, the only loss is the loss of a word.
    But they were pushing for that word, weren't they? It must be more than just a word to them then.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How many times have you seen judges making conservative laws from the bench? Hmmm?
    First off, Civics 101 tells us that judges don't make law, they interpret law and establish prescedent.

    Secondly, Google is your friend.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    But they were pushing for that word, weren't they? It must be more than just a word to them then.
    Their argument is that if it's just a word, we should let them have it since it's no big deal; if it's not just a word, even more reason to let them have it, since it is a big deal and represents discriminatory practice.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Their argument is that if it's just a word, we should let them have it since it's no big deal; if it's not just a word, even more reason to let them have it, since it is a big deal and represents discriminatory practice.
    It's not discriminatory if it's wrong for them to use it.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    First off, Civics 101 tells us that judges don't make law, they interpret law and establish prescedent.

    Secondly, Google is your friend.
    Please save the condescension for Z and CC.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    But they were pushing for that word, weren't they? It must be more than just a word to them then.
    does anybody/group have exclusive rights to the word?

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