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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Many children now live with only one parent. Guess we should take those kids away from them since it's not perfect.

    Many married couples have no children at all. Guess we should force them to get divorced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Many children now live with only one parent. Guess we should take those kids away from them since it's not perfect.

    Many married couples have no children at all. Guess we should force them to get divorced.
    You don't seem to catch on Groucho.........Of course if there is only one birth parent that is fine, but ideally it would be nice for a child to have a mother and father..............You would never admit it but I bet even you would prefer that.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You don't seem to catch on Groucho.........Of course if there is only one birth parent that is fine, but ideally it would be nice for a child to have a mother and father..............You would never admit it but I bet even you would prefer that.........
    I would certainly admit that. But we can't always have a perfect scenario. And two parents of the same sex is much better than being in a foster home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If gay marriage benefits society why wouldn't polygamy?
    Pluralistic marriages are difficult to sustain. Given that it is hard enough for two people to stay together, imagine how much hard it is for three or four? Also, it is a financial strain. Historically only the wealthy have had polygamous marriages. Third, it creates competition among spouses. Each one is vying for their children to receive the majority of attention from the father. Fourth, it causes sons to be kicked out of the family. As the father can simply remarry younger wives as he gets tired with his older ones, he has to remove the competition that might be vying for the younger females. That usually means he kicks out his own sons. That is a trend that has been observed in polygamous sects for decades. Fifth, it creates an uneven distribution of the sexes. If a man marries several wives then that leaves fewer women for other men. As gay people would only tend to marry each other anyways, the same problem doesn't exist with same sex couples.

    How is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I would certainly admit that. But we can't always have a perfect scenario. And two parents of the same sex is much better than being in a foster home.
    And two parents of the same sex are just as good as two parents of the opposite sex.
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    And I can defeat them without breaking a sweat. The government has no reason to sanction polygamy because it has not been shown to benefit the individual, the rearing of children, society, or the state. Gay unions have.

    Gee, that was easy.
    Says who? You do. You base this purely on personal hate for Polygamy. Your bigotry towards multi-member marriages is obvious.

    In a three adult relationship, one could stay home to care for the children while two work. Think about it, two men, one woman. Higher pay (for the males) and the the nurture of a woman at home.

    You have only your own bias, no facts, no studies, nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I would certainly admit that. But we can't always have a perfect scenario. And two parents of the same sex is much better than being in a foster home.
    That is a whole new thread my friend...we are talking about new borns that are so in demand that people are lining up by the hundreds to adopt the children in Haiti..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Says who? You do. You base this purely on personal hate for Polygamy. Your bigotry towards multi-member marriages is obvious.

    In a three adult relationship, one could stay home to care for the children while two work. Think about it, two men, one woman. Higher pay (for the males) and the the nurture of a woman at home.

    You have only your own bias, no facts, no studies, nothing.
    Polygamy would be like a pride of lions with all the mothers sisters and aunts taking care of the babies..........And the male would be around too.....That would be much better then two fathers or two mothers..........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Says who? You do. You base this purely on personal hate for Polygamy. Your bigotry towards multi-member marriages is obvious.
    Oh, stop the overdramatic hyperbole. I have no hate nor bigotry of polygamy. I have data and information that demonstrates that polygamy is not equal to straight or gay marriage, does not yield the same benefits, and should therefore NOT be sanctioned by the government. That is the extent of my argument.

    In a three adult relationship, one could stay home to care for the children while two work. Think about it, two men, one woman. Higher pay (for the males) and the the nurture of a woman at home.

    You have only your own bias, no facts, no studies, nothing.
    Firstly, that's not how it works in RL. Secondly, when I use those words that you just used (yes, I am aware of what you are trying to do, and you are failing at it miserably) I have proof of this, and I am correct. In your case, you do not.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Polygamy would be like a pride of lions with all the mothers sisters and aunts taking care of the babies..........And the male would be around too.....That would be much better then two fathers or two mothers..........
    NP... are you really comparing animals to humans? Well, then I suppose you will agree that since homosexuality is quite normal in animals, then it would be normal for humans too, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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