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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Wow, it is nice to know that you can guarantee that a child being raised by a mother and father will never be abused, molested, neglected, or abandoned by their parents.

    Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
    I can't do that but I know if I was a child I would rather have a mother and father instead of two fathers one pretending to be my mother or vice versa with 2 mothers, one pretending to be my father......Both a father and mother have distinct roles in a marriage with certain responsibilities which can not be substituted...........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    NP, I have already demonstrated clearly in several threads over the past few years that your statement is not true. Children reared in gay households do as well as in straight households. We've had the argument before. And since I see the importance of a stable household for children as being paramount, that is the biggest reason that I support GM.
    CC you can't convince me that 2 fathers are better then a mother and a father......like I just posted if I were a child I would much rather have a mother and a father because they have distinct roles that can not be substituted....I don't care what any study shows.........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The people run the country, not the courts, not the politicians.
    Which is irrelevant to my comment. Just because a majority of people vote for something, doesn't mean it's "good" or "right". That's the logical fallacy of yours I was pointing out.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Why stop at 2 people? That's next ya know. Polygamist are just DYING for a court case they can use to expand "marriage" to include however many people want to enter into one.

    I can use any of your arguments FOR gay civil unions to include polygamy.
    And I can defeat them without breaking a sweat. The government has no reason to sanction polygamy because it has not been shown to benefit the individual, the rearing of children, society, or the state. Gay unions have.

    Gee, that was easy.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I can't do that but I know if I was a child I would rather have a mother and father instead of two fathers one pretending to be my mother or vice versa with 2 mothers, one pretending to be my father.....
    If I were a child, I would just want a stable home with two loving parents regardless of their gender.

    .Both a father and mother have distinct roles in a marriage with certain responsibilities which can not be substituted...........
    I had a whole thread dedicated to allowing people to explain specifically what those responsibilities were and not a single person was able to do so. Can you do it? If not, then I think argument is simply a load of bull.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    CC you can't convince me that 2 fathers are better then a mother and a father......like I just posted if I were a child I would much rather have a mother and a father because they have distinct roles that can not be substituted....I don't care what any study shows.........
    And you cannot convince me that I'm wrong. You can believe what you want, NP. I go with research, and my own observations.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And I can defeat them without breaking a sweat. The government has no reason to sanction polygamy because it has not been shown to benefit the individual, the rearing of children, society, or the state. Gay unions have.

    Gee, that was easy.
    If gay marriage benefits society why wouldn't polygamy?
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If gay marriage benefits society why wouldn't polygamy?
    NP, I've posted this before. I have to get back to work, so I'll dig out the post and repost it later. It might be much later, because my "files" are at home, not at work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And you cannot convince me that I'm wrong. You can believe what you want, NP. I go with research, and my own observations.
    Tell me CC if you had a choice when you were born would you not had a mother and father then 2 fathers? A mother has things she brings to the table that a father can not and vice versa..........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And you cannot convince me that I'm wrong. You can believe what you want, NP. I go with research, and my own observations.
    I know you do and I go by how I feel............If it was the only way I could live then I would say 2 parents of the same sex is OK but if I could choose I would always choose the traditional parents, a mother and a father..........
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