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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Which has nothing t do with the subject of this thread......you happy now?
    Can't do it, can you? Come on, try it! Here, I'll give you a hand:

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Can't do it, can you? Come on, try it! Here, I'll give you a hand:

    "You were right. I was wrong."

    See? Not that hard to do. Now you try.
    Give him a break. He just found out that same sex marriage could be recognized in 20% of the states relatively soon. Given that he takes comfort in the numbers that might be a bit of a shock to the system for him when he previously only thought 10% of the states did. It never occurred to him that defeat of the gay marriage bill in New Jersey only meant that gays were denied the word "marriage", not any of the rights that states can grant to married people.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

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    Can't do it, can you? Come on, try it! Here, I'll give you a hand:

    "You were right. I was wrong."

    See? Not that hard to do. Now you try.
    Ouch. Groucho smells blood in the water.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I just re-read through this, and your statement struck me as... well rather obscene. Why call all marriages "Civil unions"? Just because you don't like the term Marriage?

    Way to force your view of morality on all.
    Has nothing to do with morality. Marriage has always been religious term, now borrowed by the government. What is a "marriage" but a contract between two people that allow each to benefit. A business partnership... at least from a governmental logistical standpoint. The term "civil union" describes this partnership, operationally, very neatly. Marriage can be saved for religious affiliation; a church could choose, or not choose to "marry" anyone, but the federal and state benefits would be given to those who have civil unions, regardless of race, creed, color, religion, sexual orientation, or the sex of the person one wants to be united with.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The people don't, and the failure of the Gay Agenda to get "Gay Marriage" to fly anywhere says I'm NOT wrong.

    You can keep beating your head against the wall if you want too, but the people, just don't support this drive to alter what Marriage is defined as.
    Now, you don't want to go down the appeal to populum logical fallacy route, now do you? Oh... I've seen you've already done that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Has nothing to do with morality. Marriage has always been religious term, now borrowed by the government. What is a "marriage" but a contract between two people that allow each to benefit. A business partnership... at least from a governmental logistical standpoint. The term "civil union" describes this partnership, operationally, very neatly. Marriage can be saved for religious affiliation; a church could choose, or not choose to "marry" anyone, but the federal and state benefits would be given to those who have civil unions, regardless of race, creed, color, religion, sexual orientation, or the sex of the person one wants to be united with.
    Marriage is much more then that CC........It is and institution where a child can be assured of stable relationship with a mother and father.......With 2 gay people or 2 mothers and 1 father or vice versa or 3 mothers or 3 fathers that can not be guarenteed...
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Marriage is much more then that CC........It is and institution where a child can be assured of stable relationship with a mother and father.......With 2 gay people or 2 mothers and 1 father or vice versa or 3 mothers or 3 fathers that can not be guarenteed...
    Wow, it is nice to know that you can guarantee that a child being raised by a mother and father will never be abused, molested, neglected, or abandoned by their parents.

    Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Marriage is much more then that CC........It is and institution where a child can be assured of stable relationship with a mother and father.......With 2 gay people or 2 mothers and 1 father or vice versa or 3 mothers or 3 fathers that can not be guarenteed...
    NP, I have already demonstrated clearly in several threads over the past few years that your statement is not true. Children reared in gay households do as well as in straight households. We've had the argument before. And since I see the importance of a stable household for children as being paramount, that is the biggest reason that I support GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Now, you don't want to go down the appeal to populum logical fallacy route, now do you? Oh... I've seen you've already done that.
    The people run the country, not the courts, not the politicians.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Has nothing to do with morality. Marriage has always been religious term, now borrowed by the government. What is a "marriage" but a contract between two people that allow each to benefit. A business partnership... at least from a governmental logistical standpoint. The term "civil union" describes this partnership, operationally, very neatly. Marriage can be saved for religious affiliation; a church could choose, or not choose to "marry" anyone, but the federal and state benefits would be given to those who have civil unions, regardless of race, creed, color, religion, sexual orientation, or the sex of the person one wants to be united with.
    Why stop at 2 people? That's next ya know. Polygamist are just DYING for a court case they can use to expand "marriage" to include however many people want to enter into one.

    I can use any of your arguments FOR gay civil unions to include polygamy.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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