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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Webster's disagrees with you so, no, you make no valid point here.
    The people don't, and the failure of the Gay Agenda to get "Gay Marriage" to fly anywhere says I'm NOT wrong.

    You can keep beating your head against the wall if you want too, but the people, just don't support this drive to alter what Marriage is defined as.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The people don't,
    The people are irrelevant. You stated the definition is...the source on definitions states otherwise.

    I'm sorry you find that inconvenient.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    He does have a point about the Pride Parades though... they can be rather... obscene to say the least.
    Yes they can. But that's not the point the poster was making. He was taking the extreme fringe of a certain group and then labeling the rest of the group the same way.

    For example:

    Some gay men at gay pride parades wear leather and a collar. Therefore all gays are kinky perverts that love S/M activities.

    Some Catholic Priests are pedophiles. Therefore I can safely assume all Catholic Priests love to molest young boys.

    The KKK consisted almost entirely of white people. Therefore I can safely assume all white people are racists that enjoy lynching black people.

    19 Muslims flew 2 airplanes into buildings to attack America. Therefore we can all safely assume all Muslims are terrorists that want to kill us.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I will agree wholeheartedly with this.

    Pride parade is kind of synonymous with Fetish Street Fairy.
    fixed it for you.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The people don't, and the failure of the Gay Agenda to get "Gay Marriage" to fly anywhere says I'm NOT wrong.
    Several countries have gay marriage, and it is recognized in 9 states.

    What is with Conservatives and overgneralization? (jk)

    You can keep beating your head against the wall if you want too, but the people, just don't support this drive to alter what Marriage is defined as.
    You are correct. Most people don't support same sex marriage. However, 58% support civil unions. If we are going by what the people support, does that mean you support civil unions?
    Last edited by CriticalThought; 01-29-10 at 11:06 PM.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Several countries have gay marriage, and it is recognized in 9 states.

    What is with Conservatives and overgneralization? (jk)



    You are correct. Most people don't support same sex marriage. However, 58% support civil unions. If we are going by what the people support, does that mean you support civil unions?
    What 9 states is that.....when you post crap like that you better back it up with a link......
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What 9 states is that.....when you post crap like that you better back it up with a link......
    Five states have instituted same sex marriage...

    ...New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut, Iowa, and Massachusetts.

    Four more states have not instituted same sex marriage, but recognize same sex marriages performed in other states...

    ...New York and California don't grant same sex marriage certificates, but they recognize those performed in other states...

    ...New Jersey and Washington recognize same sex marriages performed in other states as civil unions with all the equal rights of marriage...which really under DOMA isn't much different than recognizing them as full marriage.

    So that comes to 9 states that recognize same sex marriage.

    State By State: The Legal Battle Over Gay Marriage : NPR
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Five states have instituted same sex marriage...

    ...New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut, Iowa, and Massachusetts.

    Four more states have not instituted same sex marriage, but recognize same sex marriages performed in other states...

    ...New York and California don't grant same sex marriage certificates, but they recognize those performed in other states...

    ...New Jersey and Washington recognize same sex marriages performed in other states as civil unions with all the equal rights of marriage...which really under DOMA isn't much different than recognizing them as full marriage.

    So that comes to 9 states that recognize same sex marriage.



    State By State: The Legal Battle Over Gay Marriage : NPR

    You better check that map out again so or take a course in math......The green states are the only ones that recognize gay marriage..........Did you happen to notice the ones with DOMAS? are you actually bringing up NJ an California........This thread is about NJ rejecting gay marriage...
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You better check that map out again so or take a course in math......The green states are the only ones that recognize gay marriage..........Did you happen to notice the ones with DOMAS? are you actually bringing up NJ an California........This thread is about NJ rejecting gay marriage...
    I really don't know how to respond to this. It's so clear I am not sure how you missed it.

    I was going to respond but realized I would simply be repeating the original post. Seriously, the map is as clear as day. Green states allow gay marriage, yellow states have a civil union that is the same thing as marriage except in name. You add them up, that's nine.

    Unless you're trying so hard to keep the numbers down that you refuse to acknowledge a civil union as a "recognition".

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You better check that map out again so or take a course in math......The green states are the only ones that recognize gay marriage..........Did you happen to notice the ones with DOMAS? are you actually bringing up NJ an California........This thread is about NJ rejecting gay marriage...


    Navy, just because California doesn't give out same sex marriage certificates does not mean it doesn't recognize same sex marriages performed in other states.

    In other words, if I get married to a man in Vermont and I move to California, then my same sex marriage will be recognized by the state of California even though California has a Constitutional Ban against same sex marriage.

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    The same holds true in New York, New Jersey, and Washington. Even though none of those states have same sex marriage, they will recognize same sex marriages performed in other states.

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