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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    "Civil Union" won't do because that doesn't throw their sexuality in your face enough.

    Just like you can't throw a gay parade without the proverbial guy in the leather bondage suit with a dog collar and leash on his hands and knees going buy.

    You have to acknowledge their gaydom, keep your mouth shut, and deal with it, or they aren't happy.
    I would like to be excluded from "they" please. Your overgeneralization of an entire group of people doesn't do you any favors. Yes there are some gay people as you describe, but not most. Just as there are some Christians who stand on the side of the road holding up signs saying, "God hates Amercia" and "God hates Fags". But I'm intelligent enough not to assume some fringe individuals of a larger group represent the views of every member of that group.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I would like to be excluded from "they" please. Your overgeneralization of an entire group of people doesn't do you any favors. Yes there are some gay people as you describe, but not most. Just as there are some Christians who stand on the side of the road holding up signs saying, "God hates Amercia" and "God hates Fags". But I'm intelligent enough not to assume some fringe individuals of a larger group don't represent the views of every member of that group.
    I respect and applaud your efforts but I must let you know that your attempt to remain rational and level-headed will not be met halfway by that one.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    I know. That's my point. It's HIS problem. He needs to own it. Blaming gays isn't going to solve it.
    He does have a point about the Pride Parades though... they can be rather... obscene to say the least.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Just like you can't throw a gay parade without the proverbial guy in the leather bondage suit with a dog collar and leash on his hands and knees going buy.
    What were you doing at a gay pride parade? I mean besides wearing your leash of course...

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    He does have a point about the Pride Parades though... they can be rather... obscene to say the least.
    I will agree wholeheartedly with this.

    Pride parade is kind of synonymous with Fetish Street Faire.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I will agree wholeheartedly with this.

    Pride parade is kind of synonymous with Fetish Street Faire.
    I was gonna post a few pics from that to make the point, but none of them were... appropriate.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Truthfully, to me this is irrelevant. NJ already has civil unions which affords gay couples rights for adoptions, benefits, and other things that married couples have. Though my overall position is that the term "marriage" should be used only for religious purposes and all governmental unions should be "civil unions"... gay or straight, the way that NJ handles it currently, is fine by me. I'm not sure why this is a big deal.
    I just re-read through this, and your statement struck me as... well rather obscene. Why call all marriages "Civil unions"? Just because you don't like the term Marriage?

    Way to force your view of morality on all.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I just re-read through this, and your statement struck me as... well rather obscene. Why call all marriages "Civil unions"? Just because you don't like the term Marriage?

    Way to force your view of morality on all.
    How about you call your relationship whatever you want, I call mine whatever I want, and the government calls them both the exact same thing?

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How about you call your relationship whatever you want, I call mine whatever I want, and the government calls them both the exact same thing?
    Marriage is a union of a man and a woman, that's why.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Marriage is a union of a man and a woman, that's why.
    Webster's disagrees with you so, no, you make no valid point here.

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