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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Appeal to nature is still a fallacy.
    Fallacy unless YOU appeal to it, huh? Marriage is according to Jallman....given the natural tendancy of the human being to choose life-long mates....

    You're a total contradiction. You can't stay consistent, j, what an absolute and utter joke you are!
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Marriage is....given the natural tendancy of the human being to choose life-long mates....

    You're a total contradiction. You can't stay consistent, j, what an absolute and utter joke you are!
    And you're still a dumbass that is truncating posts.

    I never made an appeal to nature argument in the first place. I stated what the reasoning of the State was. You can't comprehend plain english so I don't advise you attempting to hurt yourself trying to comprehend the subtle nuance of logical fallacies.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Marriage is....given the natural tendancy of the human being to choose life-long mates....

    You're a total contradiction. You can't stay consistent, j, what an absolute and utter joke you are!
    Human nature is too versatile to claim in its our nature to choose life long mates.

    Even if that was true, marriage is a not a synonym for life ling mates.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Marriage is a not a synonym for life ling mates.
    Oh my...don't confuse him with subtle differences in language. He's already having a hard time as it is.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    And none of that disproves that it is a natural tendancy for human beings to enter into lifelong partnership. Attempting and failing does not negate the tendancy toward the pursuit.
    So you think that a natural tendency to pursue wealth equates to a natural tendency to be wealthy? Or that a natural tendency to pursue happiness equates to a natural tendency to be happy? You have some odd thoughts.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Human nature is too versatile to claim in its our nature to choose life long mates.

    Even if that was true, marriage is a not a synonym for life ling mates.
    Tell the resident Liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    So you think that a natural tendency to pursue wealth equates to a natural tendency to be wealthy? Or that a natural tendency to pursue happiness equates to a natural tendency to be happy? You have some odd thoughts.
    No. And that's not what I said about choosing lifelong mates, either. We do have a natural tendancy to choose wealth. We have a natural tendancy to choose lifelong mates.

    Whether we are successful in realizing our choices is a completely separate matter.

    You simply have some odd comprehension problems.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    I also think that someone needs to identify what a "life-long partner" means. Seems to me that some folks are identifying this in a quantitative way. I think it is more of a qualitative thing. For example, if someone is married to someone for 30 years, more of a marriage of convenience than anything else, both get divorced, and one marries someone they truly love and want to spend the rest of their life with... and a year later they die in a car accident, which of their partners was their "life-long partner"? I would say the latter, not the former.

    Time is not nearly as relevant to this issue as quality is. The search for this can continue even after the appearance that it has been found.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Oh my...don't confuse him with subtle differences in language. He's already having a hard time as it is.
    Look to MG's second sentence, J.....isn't MG taking your argument on?

    Your reading comprehension like you consistency....non-existent.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Look to MG's second sentence, J.....isn't MG taking your argument on?

    Your reading comprehension like you consistency....non-existent.
    I never made any assertion as to whether MG agreed with me or you. Only that there was the risk of confusing you with subtleties.

    Reading comprehension is just not your friend.

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