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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Nixon was more liberal than Obama.
    You lefties sure can't tell a liberal when you see one..........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Minority is not normal especially such a small minority.
    I see you answered my larger question. Anything that is a "minority" is abnormal to you. Thanks for clarifying.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Wow I feel so special, unique now for being left handed.....Or is it that I worship the debbil?
    Would you call people who are left handed as normal. Why is it taken for granted most are right handed? Because that is normal.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Minority is not normal especially such a small minority.
    You are not talking about normal you are talking about an average. Is it normal to see bears? Maybe in the woods or on TV it is....

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I think you mean LBJ.

    Perhaps LBJ was more liberal than Obama too. Check out some of what Nixon did during his first term:


    Economy

    Under Nixon, direct payments from the federal government to individual American citizens in government benefits (including Social Security and Medicare) rose from 6.3% of the Gross National Product (GNP) to 8.9%. Food aid and public assistance also rose, beginning at $6.6 billion and escalating to $9.1 billion. Defense spending decreased from 9.1% to 5.8% of the GNP. The revenue sharing program pioneered by Nixon delivered $80 billion to individual states and municipalities.[70]

    In 1970, the Democratic Congress passed the Economic Stabilization Act, giving Nixon power to set wages and prices; Congress did not believe the president would use the new controls and felt this would make him appear to be indecisive.[71] While opposed to permanent wage and price controls,[72] Nixon imposed the controls on a temporary basis[73] in a 90 day wage and price freeze.[74] The controls (enforced for large corporations, voluntary for others) were the largest since World War II; they were relaxed after the initial 90 days.[75] Nixon then spoke to the American public, saying that by "Working together, we will break the back of inflation."[76]

    A Pay Board set wage controls limiting increases to 5.5% per year, and the Price Commission set a 2.5% annual limit on price increases.[77] The limits did help to control wages, but not inflation.[78] Overall, however, the controls were viewed as successful in the short term[79] and were popular with the public, who felt Nixon was rescuing them from price-gougers and from a foreign-caused exchange crisis.[75][80]

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    Nixon believed in using government wisely to benefit all and supported the idea of practical liberalism.[87] During the Nixon administration, the United States established many government agencies, among them the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).[88] Nixon authorized the Clean Air Act of 1970, which was noted as one of the most significant pieces of environmental legislation ever signed.[89] He established the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)[75]

    In 1971, Nixon proposed the creation of four new government departments superseding the current structure: departments organized for the goal of efficient and effective public service as opposed to the thematic bases of Commerce, Labor, Transportation, Agriculture, et al. Departments including the State, Treasury, Defense, and Justice would remain under this proposal.[90] He reorganized the Post Office Department from a cabinet department to a government-owned corporation: the U.S. Postal Service.

    Nixon cut billions of dollars in federal spending and expanded the power of the Office of Management and Budget.[91] He established the Consumer Product Safety Commission in 1972[88] and supported the Legacy of parks program, which transferred ownership of federally owned land to the states, resulting in the establishment of state parks and beaches, recreational areas, and environmental education centers.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You lefties sure can't tell a liberal when you see one..........
    LOL......considering that you refer to some of the most conservative people on this site as your "liberal friends"....I think its destroyed any credibility you might have on this particular issue.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You have not showed how it is false so it must be true or you would show proof.
    Try to follow along. You made this claim:

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    They are infiltrating the schools and churches and it is not being forced on us?
    I then said this:

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    Again, stop with the silly talking points... or demonstrate how they are "infiltrating".
    The ball is now in your court. Either substantiate, or we can accept that your comment was irrelevant and meaningless.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are seriously missing the point. Just because someone may be in the "minority" doesn't make them abnormal.

    Do you view racial minorities as "abnormal" as well? I think the answer is obvious based on your previous responses here.
    It is not what most would call normal. You are making a weak argument by twisting words

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, what happened in NJ supported my argument. I live in the state. The issue was to get full marital rights under the civil union descriptor. That's what happened and what won. If the word "marriage" had been included, it would have lost... as it did in the OP's article. This demonstrates my point neatly.
    So .... fighting for marriage lost, and yet the gay community has all the rights you described. I do not see how NJ supports your argument that fighting for marriage precludes progress.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is not what most would call normal. You are making a weak argument by twisting words
    I'm not twisting words at all. You said that people that are not in the majority are not normal.

    So according to your logic....blacks are not normal, latinos are not normal....asians are not normal.

    The only "normal" people in your book are white heterosexuals.

    Such a limited view of the world.
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