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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Less educated oh man you are riot. The more education one has the more likely they are to accept gays as equals.
    As with most things, Education is a key to dispel ignorance and fear.

    People are often afraid of that which they do not know or understand. As more and more gay people come out and more and more people become acquainted with and educated about the issues, their attitudes change accordingly.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    As with most things, Education is a key to dispel ignorance and fear.

    People are often afraid of that which they do not know or understand. As more and more gay people come out and more and more people become acquainted with and educated about the issues, their attitudes change accordingly.
    Yeap, education is the key. I agree, that people attitudes change over time. I think that people are getting more educated, and a lot liberal is issues.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually Navy...you are wrong. With the exception of the extreme Bible Belt....Americans are becoming more and more accepting of fairness and equality.
    You will see.....the tide is turning quickly. Its only a matter of time.
    Like I said, you live in a fantasy world..........Pretty soon 49 out of 50 states will define marriage as a union between a man and a woman......The issue will be on several ballots in the fall and you will lose every one.........the only state that will legally recognize gay marriage is Mass. and that is because activist judges made the ruling......If the people get a chance to vote you will lose there to........I wonder when there are 50 states that have denounced gay marriage will you still be in your fantasy world saying your winning? I actually feel sorry for you my left wing friend..........I don't hear the gays in DP arguing the issue like you.........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Like I said, you live in a fantasy world..........Pretty soon 49 out of 50 states will define marriage as a union between a man and a woman......The issue will be on several ballots in the fall and you will lose every one.........the only state that will legally recognize gay marriage is Mass. and that is because activist judges made the ruling......If the people get a chance to vote you will lose there to........I wonder when there are 50 states that have denounced gay marriage will you still be in your fantasy world saying your winning? I actually feel sorry for you my left wing friend..........I don't hear the gays in DP arguing the issue like you.........
    Oh this post is worth a book mark

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    It's been proven time, and time again that young people vote for Gay marriage. The voting statics, prove this the young-adults vote split 55 percent to 45 percent.


    The people, are waking up too. Future Trends for Same-Sex Marriage Support? - Statistical Modeling, Causal Inference, and Social Science We here in texas just vote in our first gay mayor, so people thoughts are changing Navy. You can't stop progress.
    Young people are traditionly liberal.....Hell I was to...No responsibilities, no worries, no problem, the state will take care of me from cradle to grave.....As we grow older and wiser get married, have a family we realize the error in our ways and turn conservative........Its a fact of life.........The silent majority in this country are mostly conservative and religeous......They will prevail..........
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    The accepting of gays, will become a reality by your life time Navy. More and more people, are waking up. My mother, and grandmother are older, and they are accepting of gays. I have a wide verity of ages in my family, and we all accept gays as equals. My mother, is as liberal as I am, and she is around 59. So not true Navy.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    But even acceptance of gays among older Americans is changing....
    I am one of those aging Americans and I can tell you that is wrong........I associate with many veterans in the clubs I belong to, American Legion, Fleet Reserve, VFW, and to a man most of them at best think gay marriage is wrong and at worse think its a joke............
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill They use to hid but many are out noy

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I am one of those aging Americans and I can tell you that is wrong........I associate with many veterans in the clubs I belong to, American Legion, Fleet Reserve, VFW, and to a man most of them at best think gay marriage is wrong and at worse think its a joke............
    I know gay vets your age that have been with their partners s since their military days.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill They use to hid but many are out noy

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I know gay vets your age that have been with their partners s since their military days.
    Shh don't tell him that. He obviously hasn't understood that there're vets that are gay.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Like I said, you live in a fantasy world..........Pretty soon 49 out of 50 states will define marriage as a union between a man and a woman......The issue will be on several ballots in the fall and you will lose every one.........the only state that will legally recognize gay marriage is Mass. and that is because activist judges made the ruling......If the people get a chance to vote you will lose there to........I wonder when there are 50 states that have denounced gay marriage will you still be in your fantasy world saying your winning? I actually feel sorry for you my left wing friend..........I don't hear the gays in DP arguing the issue like you.........

    Because you are failing to understand on so many levels Navy:

    1. First of all....Constitutional rights should never be put to a popular vote.
    Can you imagine how different civil rights would be in this country if the rights had been put to a popular vote.

    2. Even IF it is put to a popular vote, the shift in numbers is astounding and indicative that gay marriage is on the horizon. Yes, Navy, you are correct that when put to a popular vote, the voters have been against it. But the BIG BIG BIG thing that you are missing is look at the numbers of those elections. The shift has been dramatic and is changing rapidly.
    Where 10 years ago gay marriage was losing by 30-40 points. Today it is losing by 4-5 points. You are in complete denial if you fail to recognize that outdated discriminatory views are soon to be a thing of the past.

    Even old Farts like you Navy (and I say that endearingly....)...are changing their attitudes. I think even you are capable of embracing that which is fair and right over time, despite your stubborness.

    When you have older conservative Republican mayors realizing that they were wrong on the issue and changing course, it gives me hope that even you will come to that realization in your lifetime. I sincerely, hope that you will...because I think down deep you really are more caring and understanding than your old ways are allowing you to be.
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