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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Since homosexuals try to ram their lifestyle preferences down the throats of our youth why would they insist on mimmicking any part of our lifestyle?
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Since homosexuals try to ram their lifestyle preferences down the throats of our youth why would they insist on mimmicking any part of our lifestyle?
    What youth are having the lifestyle preferences rammed down his or her throat?

    Colorful choice of words, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If you think the "Bill of rights" is the only rights the Constitution consists of...I think it is YOU who needs a history or civics book.
    You'll note a common denominator under each Amendment that reads: passed by Congress and then gives an exact date. Whether it be the first ten amendments or amendment 27. All are passed by Congress decided upon there, the Supreme Court doesn't decide our rights, we clearly do, please correct your colossal error here

    And then...may I suggest you were instead speaking to the responsibility of judicial review...that is the Supreme Court(framed to be the weakest of the three branches of government), reviews laws by the Legislature or Acts by the Executive Branch to determine Constitutionality. However....the Constitution itself and rights endowed are defined and decided by Congress. You have a very wrong interpretation of this nation's government.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    What youth are having the lifestyle preferences rammed down his or her throat?

    Colorful choice of words, by the way.
    The straights try to ram the straight lifestyle down the throats of gay youth.
    That is reality in many many many case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    You'll note a common denominator under each Amendment that reads: passed by Congress and then gives an exact date. Whether it be the first ten amendments or amendment 27. All are passed by Congress decided upon there, the Supreme Court doesn't decide our rights, we clearly do, please correct your colossal error here

    And then...may I suggest you were instead speaking to the responsibility of judicial review...that is the Supreme Court(framed to be the weakest of the three branches of government), reviews laws by the Legislature or Acts by the Executive Branch to determine Constitutionality. However....the Constitution itself and rights endowed are defined and decided by Congress. You have a very wrong interpretation of this nation's government.
    Not sure I follow this.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    You'll note a common denominator under each Amendment that reads: passed by Congress and then gives an exact date. Whether it be the first ten amendments or amendment 27. All are passed by Congress decided upon there, the Supreme Court doesn't decide our rights, we clearly do, please correct your colossal error here

    And then...may I suggest you were instead speaking to the responsibility of judicial review...that is the Supreme Court(framed to be the weakest of the three branches of government), reviews laws by the Legislature or Acts by the Executive Branch to determine Constitutionality. However....the Constitution itself and rights endowed are defined and decided by Congress. You have a very wrong interpretation of this nation's government.
    Plain and simple..you are wrong. You really should pick up a book on government.

    The three branches of the government were designed to be equal.

    The SCOTUS has ALWAYS existed to define and determine rights granted under the constitution. Have you ever heard of "caselaw"?
    Caselaw is the very foundation of our legal system and the framework by whih our government and legal system function.

    You may think you know what you are talking about, but reality you need to educate yourself a little before you pretend to be a know-it-all.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Plain and simple..you are wrong. You really should pick up a book on government.

    The three branches of the government were designed to be equal.

    The SCOTUS has ALWAYS existed to define and determine rights granted under the constitution. Have you ever heard of "caselaw"?
    Caselaw is the very foundation of our legal system and the framework by whih our government and legal system function.

    You may think you know what you are talking about, but reality you need to educate yourself a little before you pretend to be a know-it-all.
    Not sure where you learned this but it's total BS. The federal government doesn't define or determine rights, it only protects them. The Constitution only defines the powers of the federal government. The Bill of Rights are only an assurance of rights that already exist. No where in the Constitution does it say a branch defines rights.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think you may be confused as to the context and the the application of "fundamental" in this instance.
    I think you may not be able to read the context of "human."

    If disney or you said "fundamental American right," that'd make sense. As it is, both of you are looking like you believe the words "American," and "human," are synonymous.

    What are Brits then, not human?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    I think you may not be able to read the context of "human."

    If disney or you said "fundamental American right," that'd make sense. As it is, both of you are looking like you believe the words "American," and "human," are synonymous.

    What are Brits then, not human?
    That's the most retarded logic I think I have ever heard.

    Inclusion in one group does not negate inclusion in others. An American is human. We have human rights in America. They are fundamental to our legal system.

    That in no way disregards or diminishes the humanity of Brits. Your logic is anything but logical. It's retarded.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's the most retarded logic I think I have ever heard.

    Inclusion in one group does not negate inclusion in others. An American is human. We have human rights in America. They are fundamental to our legal system.

    That in no way disregards or diminishes the humanity of Brits. Your logic is anything but logical. It's retarded.
    This is fairly basic, we're discussing "fundamental human rights."

    Is the first thing you think of really the US Supreme Court?

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