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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If rational gays got together and got rid of the "feel good liberals like DD" and took their cause to the proper authorities I believe you would have a good chance to get civil unions, but I also believe your chances are decreasing for civil unions because of the reasons I mentioned.........

    Just like my friend Dave (the guy on our golf team who sadly lost his partner a while back) says to the militant gays and the feel good liberals "Just shut the **** up".
    Yes Navy....there are many people who try to silence the voice against discrimination just like there were those who wanted to keep Blacks on the back of the bus.
    I will continue to speak out against discrimination against all members of our nation. Those who sit silent in the face of discrimination are cowards and those who accept compromise instead of equality and fairness are no better.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its like a ball game.....Your losing 31-0.......Mercy rule........
    Like I said Navy....you are playing checkers...the rest of us are playing chess.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes Navy....there are many people who try to silence the voice against discrimination just like there were those who wanted to keep Blacks on the back of the bus.
    I will continue to speak out against discrimination against all members of our nation. Those who sit silent in the face of discrimination are cowards and those who accept compromise instead of equality and fairness are no better.

    And you will continue to hurt their cause in trying to get Civil Unions......
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If rational gays got together and got rid of the "feel good liberals like DD" and took their cause to the proper authorities I believe you would have a good chance to get civil unions, but I also believe your chances are decreasing for civil unions because of the reasons I mentioned.........

    Just like my friend Dave (the guy on our golf team who sadly lost his partner a while back) says to the militant gays and the feel good liberals "Just shut the **** up".
    And if all the rational opponents of gay marriage got together and proposed civil unions and shut out the jackasses that are controlling the debate for you, you might see more rational gays come around to the idea of the civil union. But that ain't happening either so I guess we are at an impass.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Like I said Navy....you are playing checkers...the rest of us are playing chess.
    The rest of us???? Your losing in your own state one of the most liberal in the nation and 30-0 in the other states who have voted on the issue..........Now who is playing checkers??????????
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And if all the rational opponents of gay marriage got together and proposed civil unions and shut out the jackasses that are controlling the debate for you, you might see more rational gays come around to the idea of the civil union. But that ain't happening either so I guess we are at an impass.
    They are not going to do that........They want the status quo.....If you want the change, you have to do it...........

    Gotta go..Taking my wife shopping.........Good job jallman........
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Like I said Navy....you are playing checkers...the rest of us are playing chess.
    Give the guy a break he is multi tasking play chess and dodge ball at the same time.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And if all the rational opponents of gay marriage got together and proposed civil unions and shut out the jackasses that are controlling the debate for you, you might see more rational gays come around to the idea of the civil union. But that ain't happening either so I guess we are at an impass.
    Most of the conservatives I know at this point have no problem with civil unions
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Most of the conservatives I know at this point have no problem with civil unions
    Its like Jallman says...the only reason they don't have a problem with civil unions is because of the very real "threat" of gay marriage. If gays compromise and accept civil unions, you can bet that the right-wing will begin a campaign to neuter civil unions of any meaning.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its like Jallman says...the only reason they don't have a problem with civil unions is because of the very real "threat" of gay marriage. If gays compromise and accept civil unions, you can bet that the right-wing will begin a campaign to neuter civil unions of any meaning.
    I'm not going to attribute that to the whole right wing because I am rather right wing myself. However, as long as the "family values" charlatans have their cult following of fanatics and inbreds screaming and caterwauling over Adam and Steve getting their gay freak on, then you have to worry about constant litigation, rights being held in limbo, and constant social conflict.

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