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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Firstly, let's see some substantiation for this. Secondly, prove that gay is not normal. Also, if a church wants to do that, it is the church's business.



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    You know, I doubt there has ever been a time when homosexuality didn't exist. So, in that respect, it's as normal as rain.

    But so is being left-handed, having red hair, double-jointed people, albinos, and all sorts of other particular human traits that are out of the mainstream of the "norm."

    Normal as rain.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

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    Nixon was more liberal than Obama.
    I think you mean LBJ.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Not liberal but moderate. That is code word for a liberal that is not liberal enough for the far left.
    Seriously, Dude.....have you looked at her voting record? Perhaps you should, rather than relying on what Hannity and Beck tell you. You might learn something about what a "moderate" and a "liberal" are if you actually did a little reading on her record.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You have just defined the word "average". Tell us why it is not NORMAL.
    7% is not average it is a very small minority and not the normal for the vast majority. So it is not normal for this country it is the rarity.

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Well we're going to have to disagree on this one. I'd rather see gay couples get all of the benefits of marriage rather than not because they spend so much time fighting over a word. I agree that it is idiotic on BOTH sides, but by bypassing this issue, it is far easier to achieve the ultimate goal. Look at NJ.
    Indeed, look at NJ. They have all the benefits, as you said. So, continuing to fight for equality did not deprive them of gaining some relief under the law. The gay community was able to achieve much in that regard, and at the same time was not prevented from continuing with the cause.

    NJ seems to give lie to your argument that nothing is accomplished while fighting for full marriage rights.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    What is not fact show proof
    I've already asked you to substantiate your claim here which you have not done. I'm waiting.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    7% is not average it is a very small minority and not the normal for the vast majority. So it is not normal for this country it is the rarity.
    Let me give you a clue. Just because a person may be in the 93%....they don't necessarily view those in the 7% as "abnormal"....thats a mistaken assumption that you are drawing.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    7% is not average it is a very small minority and not the normal for the vast majority. So it is not normal for this country it is the rarity.
    Again, you have defined average. You have not defined NORMAL. Try again.
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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You know, I doubt there has ever been a time when homosexuality didn't exist. So, in that respect, it's as normal as rain.

    But so is being left-handed, having red hair, double-jointed people, albinos, and all sorts of other particular human traits that are out of the mainstream of the "norm."

    Normal as rain.
    It has never been normal it has always been rare by a small group of people

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    Re: New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    7% is not average it is a very small minority and not the normal for the vast majority. So it is not normal for this country it is the rarity.
    Wow I feel so special, unique now for being left handed.....Or is it that I worship the debbil?

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