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ptif219 said:
When you tell me what the definition I posted says about it.
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Your definition, your job to clarify. Simple "yes" or "no" question that you refuse to answer: So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
 
Navy Pride said:
Now don't try and get him banned just because he disagrees with you.......:roll:
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I'm not trying to get anyone banned....I'm just noticing the Stinger Shuffle as only Stinger could dance it (Goobie comes close...but he's still no Stinger)...
 
ptif219 said:
You have your answer why are you avoiding addressing the definition I posted?
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Your job to clarify your definition as I asked. You posted it. And then, you can answer the question: So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
 
disneydude said:
Its funny how you have suddenly changed your semantics from saying "it is not normal" to saying "it is not THE normal".

I think that is as close to a concession are you are going to make....and yet you still are avoiding the question.
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I answered the question by posting a definition what does the definition say?
 
Navy Pride said:
I disagree gays are defined by their sexual orientation......
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Are you defined by your sexual orientation, NP? Is that the extent of who and what you are? I sincerely doubt it, but I'd like to know if that is how you define yourself.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You're not addressing my point, NP. Prove that being gay is abnormal. We already know it is not average... prove it is abnormal.
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I never said it was average..........I believe its abnormal.......Prove that it is not.......
 
ptif219 said:
I answered the question by posting a definition what does the definition say?
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Answering question by asking a question is a perfect example of the Stinger Shuffle.

Perhaps you should try to explain how average/normal fit within your definition.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Irrelevant. Appeal to numbers fallacy. Since the majority of folks voted for Obama, I guess that means that folks who did not are abnormal, right?
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Nope that is not the word I would use in that case.....
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Again, it is not MY job to clarify the definitions that you posted. It's YOURS. So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
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Here is your answer

WordNet Search - 3.0

# S: (adj) normal (conforming with or constituting a norm or standard or level or type or social norm; not abnormal) "serve wine at normal room temperature"; "normal diplomatic relations"; "normal working hours"; "normal word order"; "normal curiosity"; "the normal course of events"
# S: (adj) normal (in accordance with scientific laws)
# S: (adj) normal (being approximately average or within certain limits in e.g. intelligence and development) "a perfectly normal child"; "of normal intelligence"; "the most normal person I've ever met"
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Are you defined by your sexual orientation, NP? Is that the extent of who and what you are? I sincerely doubt it, but I'd like to know if that is how you define yourself.
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We are going round and round in circles here CC....In my opinion being straight is the norm..........
 
disneydude said:
Why don't people understand that fleeing from a direct question is a clear exposure of the weakness of their argument?
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Like you people avoiding addressing the definition I posted?
 
Navy Pride said:
We are going round and round in circles here CC....In my opinion being straight is the norm..........
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It may be "the norm"...but it doesn't mean that everything else is "abnormal".

Sexual intercourse in the "missionary position" may be "the norm"....does that mean everything else is abnormal?
 
ptif219 said:
I answered the question by posting a definition what does the definition say?
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No you didn't. My question was RIGHT AFTER you posted the definitions, asking for clarification.

Here is the sequence:

ptif219 said:
define:normal - Google Search

# conforming with or constituting a norm or standard or level or type or social norm; not abnormal; "serve wine at normal room temperature"; "normal ...
# in accordance with scientific laws
# being approximately average or within certain limits in e.g. intelligence and development; "a perfectly normal child"; "of normal intelligence"; "the most normal person I've ever met"
# convention: something regarded as a normative example; "the convention of not naming the main character"; "violence is the rule not the exception"; "his formula for impressing visitors"
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CaptainCourtesy said:
So, you are telling us that you are using the words normal and average synonymously? If that is the case, would you consider being left handed abnormal? Would you consider being black abnormal?
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You have refused to do this, so I will ask again: So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?

Face it ptif219... you've been caught and destroyed.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Keep dancing ptif219. I've given you an out but you haven't taken it. Like I told you, you posted them, it's your job to clarify them... not mine. So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
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You are dancing by avoiding the definition I posted
 
ptif219 said:
Like you people avoiding addressing the definition I posted?
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Your posting of your "definition" was simply your attempt to dodge the question. Nice try....but your continual dodges speak volumes to your inability to support the inconsistencies in your position.
 
disneydude said:
It may be "the norm"...but it doesn't mean that everything else is "abnormal".

Sexual intercourse in the "missionary position" may be "the norm"....does that mean everything else is abnormal?
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again apples and oranges, another bad example...............
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
If you claim it's a trap, then you must know you screwed up and have no position. If not just answer the question... and remember, it is your responsibility to clarify the definitions, since you posted them: So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?
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If you would address the definition you would see
 
Navy Pride said:
I never said it was average..........I believe its abnormal.......Prove that it is not.......
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Easy. Being gay is not a dysfunction, disorder, or abnormality. This has been proven by the "Hooker" research, which has been repeated many times demonstrating validity.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
No you didn't. My question was RIGHT AFTER you posted the definitions, asking for clarification.

Here is the sequence:





You have refused to do this, so I will ask again: So, as I asked, are you using the words "average" and "normal" synonymously?

Face it ptif219... you've been caught and destroyed.
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No you will not address the definition from Princeton. Are they wrong?

# S: (adj) normal (being approximately average or within certain limits in e.g. intelligence and development) "a perfectly normal child"; "of normal intelligence"; "the most normal person I've ever met"
 
disneydude said:
Your posting of your "definition" was simply your attempt to dodge the question. Nice try....but your continual dodges speak volumes to your inability to support the inconsistencies in your position.
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Then you did not read the definition
 
ptif219 said:
No you will not address the definition from Princeton. Are they wrong?

# S: (adj) normal (being approximately average or within certain limits in e.g. intelligence and development) "a perfectly normal child"; "of normal intelligence"; "the most normal person I've ever met"
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So, are you then saying, based on this definition that "average" and "normal" can be used synonymously? Please clarify by answering this question.
 
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