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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not ever going to be 100%. And the only way to get really high is through some horribly draconian means which I wouldn't support. In the end, terrorism is a low probability event. There are far greater dynamics which can end my life well before terrorism even makes it up on the list. We can take reasonable action, yes. But we should keep our reason and wit about us.
    Agreed. We shouldn't lose our minds. Be wise, take rational action, but keep it in perspective.

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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    Terrorism is a low probablity event?
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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    Oh, I forgot one. Ahmed Omar Abu Ali was an American as well.

    So no, we have no precedence of successfully convicting ANYONE who is captured abroad by our military in federal courts, Hazelnut is full of ka ka here. We may successfully prosecute homegrown terrorists.......we may have prosecuted some in court prior to 9-11 when we were admittedly unaware of the threat facing us....but once the military is engaged....and it's the military capturing enemy combatants abroad..on battlefields....we have no precedence whatsoever. look everyone of these Cats up that Hazelnut is submitting here.

    1) Are they enemy combatants captured abroad?
    2)By our US military?
    3) Are they US citizens?

    You forgot a useful example, John Walker Lindh you'll remember the American Taliban. After 9-11, he was sentenced to prison as well, many felt he didn't deserve our rights, but he was a US citizena dn so brought home and prosecuted...given due process.

    Those captured with him at Qala-i-Jangi....those that weren't US citizens, weren't given access to out courts...or even the right to challenge their detentions.

    That IS precedence, see the difference...Hazelnut?
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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Terrorism is a low probablity event?
    yes, it is a low probability event with lower chances of success. At least as it deals with our everyday lives. There are many many many things which pose greater threat, including gravity, than terrorists pose.
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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    yes, it is a low probability event with lower chances of success. At least as it deals with our everyday lives. There are many many many things which pose greater threat, including gravity, than terrorists pose.
    I see, and how many terror attacks have we had in the past 20 years?
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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    I see, and how many terror attacks have we had in the past 20 years?


    <Terrorist Attacks and Presidents

    I compiled a pair of graphs to illustrate incidents of terrorism during each of the last three presidents, including President Obama, as a means of locking down what happened and when.

    In terms of methodology, I covered the following types of terrorist attacks against American personnel, civilians and interests:

    1) Domestic (Abortion-related attacks, Oklahoma City, Unabomber, Anthrax)

    2) Domestic Islamic (9/11, WTC 1993, Beltway Snipers, Chapel Hill)

    3) Overseas Islamic (Iraq, Afghanistan, USS Cole, Embassy Bombings)

    4) Known Failed Attempts (Shoe Bomber, Underpants Bomber)

    5) Overseas Attacks Against U.S. Allies (London, Madrid).

    These categories should cover the basic forms of terrorist attacks against Americans whether abroad or on our soil.>

    Bob Cesca's Awesome Blog! Go!: Terrorist Attacks and Presidents
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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    You know, there's a bit of this thread which sounds like "we don't need to spray for mosquitoes; there's hardly any malaria!"
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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    I covered the following types of terrorist attacks against American personnel, civilians and interests:
    You're not listing the Amercan military?
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    I see, and how many terror attacks have we had in the past 20 years?
    a handful on American State soil. You get more if you include embassies especially in areas where America has an aggressive, interventionist policy. But in terms of our daily lives, it would probably only include attacks on the State soil itself (50 proper).
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: More Ex-Detainees Resort to Terror, Officials Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    a handful on American State soil. You get more if you include embassies especially in areas where America has an aggressive, interventionist policy. But in terms of our daily lives, it would probably only include attacks on the State soil itself (50 proper).
    And given the low probability, is that probablity today rising...or receding?
    It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.

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