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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You support Democrats.

    That means you're a socialist. A socialist in denial, perhaps, but a socialist none the less.
    Democrats are no more socialists than Republicans are fascists. Seriously, get a proper understanding of the political spectrum.
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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Which means you support fascism, since "free" markets are government controlled.

    Free markets are not government controlled.
    I say "free" in quotes because there really is no such thing as a truly free market. There are regulated markets, and unregulated; either way, the market is limited - at least with the former you can preserve some measure of entrepreneurialism and employee welfare.

    Good for you.

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    We all owe a debt to society; not merely for the millions down the drain rearing you to adulthood, but also by sheer virtue of the fact it provides the means by which to obtain wealth. Wealth does not exist in a vaccum.
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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Its funny, but the people who refer to capitalists as "monkeys" don't have a clue what appropriate regulation is. For some reason, these ignorant people think it means "government control" and other forms of fascism/socialism.

    The rest of us recognize that true capitalism is based on limited government to protect the peole from the criminal types of behavior socialism and anarchy naturally produce.
    Who's advocating "control"? Controlled markets are uncompetitive and and stifled.
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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Warspite View Post
    If the majority of Americans want something they should do the right thing and get politically involved - apathy is the problem.
    Many people got involved in the last election. The voted for " Change you can believe in". Transparency in government; kick out the lobbyists etc.

    How did that go?

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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You don't mean "Enlightenment attitudes", you mean socailist attitudes.
    No, actually I'm talking about Enlightenment attitudes such as laicity.

    The Constitution of the United States, blatantly pro-freedom and hence anti-socialist, the visible peak of the Englightenment.
    "Freedom" and the Enlightenment are mutually exclusive.
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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Many people got involved in the last election. The voted for " Change you can believe in". Transparency in government; kick out the lobbyists etc.

    How did that go?
    Hate to say it, but popularism played a large part in the last election - by involved I mean being educated about it, which popularism does not necessarily entail.
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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Warspite View Post
    Hate to say it, but popularism played a large part in the last election - by involved I mean being educated about it, which popularism does not necessarily entail.
    The "new voters" that voted for Obama are the same people that text vote 100 times for American Idol. This last election was nothing more than a glorified American Idol contest.

    There wasn't a lick of historical or civics knowledge among most of them.

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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The "new voters" that voted for Obama are the same people that text vote 100 times for American Idol. This last election was nothing more than a glorified American Idol contest.

    There wasn't a lick of historical or civics knowledge among most of them.
    Likewise?

    Some made an educated choice in their votes, many did not.
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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Warspite View Post
    Likewise?

    Some made an educated choice in their votes, many did not.
    Never ran so much as a company or firm. Never introduced a bill in state or federal government. Ran for president on a resume that couldn't fill out a 3x5 index card. Yet he wrote two memoirs about accomplishing nothing.

    You're going to have to explain where the "educated" is in that vote.

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    Re: 3 Democrats Drop Plans to Seek Re-election

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Never ran so much as a company or firm. Never introduced a bill in state or federal government. Ran for president on a resume that couldn't fill out a 3x5 index card. Yet he wrote two memoirs about accomplishing nothing.

    You're going to have to explain where the "educated" is in that vote.
    To understand that you have to understand the most pressing issue at the election period - the economy. Intelligent people understand the economy runs off confidence, hence the educated decision is to vote for the confidence booster.
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