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C-SPAN Challenges Congress to Open Health Care Talks to TV Coverage

American said:
Don't people get thread banned for doing nothing more than insulting people? :roll:
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I know I sure did... and it was on a thread that I had authored myself.

Maybe not all posters are created equal.
 
Hugh_Akston said:
Moderator's Warning:
Grim and Hazlnut - stick to the topic and cease with the personal back-and-forth off-handed attacks. This is your last warning.
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So my commenting on the fact that he is attacking and insulting, rather than commenting on the thread topic gets me a warning?

Okey doke.
 
Grim17 said:
So my commenting on the fact that he is attacking and insulting, rather than commenting on the thread topic gets me a warning?
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The fact, eh..?

Post #21, Grim.

Comments on the thread topic -- you opted to ignore most of them.
 
Who has refused an open hearing? Not suspected possibly might not allow it, but come out and denied the media access? Nobody? Or nobody?
 
it is quite amusing, one claiming to be a cspan afficianado yet not knowing how conference works
 
Goobieman said:
Just Another Broken Campaign Promise.
More "change" we can believe in.
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Obama seems to have a problem with following through on anything he says. Which is good and bad. Good that bad policies are not being passed due to his lack of follow through and Bad because America really needs someone to take positive action instead of a President that doesn't really make any changes.
 
Gibberish said:
Obama seems to have a problem with following through on anything he says. Which is good and bad. Good that bad policies are not being passed due to his lack of follow through and Bad because America really needs someone to take positive action instead of a President that doesn't really make any changes.
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Looks like Obama and Pelosi are at odds over several issues. One being the promise to televise the healthcare deliberations, another that he favors the Senate bill, and Obama's promise to not raise taxes on the middle class.

Nancy Pelosi takes swipe at President Obama's campaign promises - Patrick O'Connor and Glenn Thrush - POLITICO.com
 
obama LIED about not raising taxes on the middle class, as well as so many other things

like closing gitmo, ending rendition, ending detention, ending don't ask don't tell, reversing the patriot act, cutting the deficit in half, never imposing coverage mandates on individuals, never taxing med benefits, putting legislation online, not hiring lobbyists...

LOL!

not hiring lobbyists!

NEVER has a united states white house ever been so OWNED by k street

from phrma to big insurance, autos, banks, wall street, big labor...

everyone but the taxpayers, the states, the investors

the bailouts, astronomical sums

the bonuses, obscene

to the richest people on earth who screwed the whole thing up in the first place

and only because they're still rich enough to BUY em, to GREASE all these planet-sized perks for themselves

with no accountability---the bankers refuse to lend, the too bigs continue to thumb their noses by bestowing beastly bonuses, the stimulus squandered hundreds of B's obviously horribly, foolishly, politically, with ridiculous results

almost every blue governor brays louder each day over the impossible mandates imposed on his or her already broken-down budget by this massive expansion of medicaid, utterly unfunded

his problem is his campaign was one thing

governing is something totally else

it requires leadership, which needs to inspire confidence, which must have a vision

he keeps making everything up as he goes along, he deals with HUGE questions as if they were small concerns to get him thru the week

oh well

it looks like we're going to survive as a nation

that will spell the end of barack obama
 
Grim17 said:
So, does anyone here think it's an unresonable request for CSPAN to ask democrats to honor the pledge Obama made to allow their cameras in?

I want to know exactly what the democrats are hiding from the American people.
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Hell, that'd be nice for a change, but... LOL... don't hold your breath... hold your ankles.

We wouldn't have gotten this far down the sewer had the press done it's job in the first place... during the last elections. They send a hoard of reporters to investigate Palin... which is perfectly fine... and ripped her for a couple comments and "inexperience"... while giving Obi a pass on his stream of asinine comments, his divorcing himself from his radical/poisonous friends and acquaintances, playing dumb to his lack of experience in the real world, and then they actually embraced his childish world view.

America's chickens... are coming home to roost!... indeed they are.

These folks and their propagandists are experts at shielding us from the process of making sausage, and then stick it to us where the sun don't shine.

For those with experience blocking sausage... should we inhale or exhale at the moment of penetration?


http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie-did-obama-really-promise-televised-healthcare-negotiations/
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Promise, promise, promise, promise, promise, promise, promise, promise...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPMf6kW_1Nw"]YouTube- President Obama Making C-SPAN Promise 8 Separate Times[/ame]

After all those promises... From June 22, 2009
Watch the sh*t fly.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF6iyqpo36c"]YouTube- Pres. Obama on Transparent Health Care Negotiations and C-SPAN[/ame]

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hazlnut said:
I agree, it should be televised -- but my understanding is that it's not going to be a formal committee. Using the Senate bill, the House will submit what they want and an amendment will be written in an informal committee.

I'm not sure what they would televise, a handful of congressional staffers and lawyers typing and retyping new drafts.

I'm pretty sure I've watched more c-span than most people on this board. Robotic cameras, no editing -- it's the closest thing to totally completely coverage. I stream committee hearings at work.

My comments were more amusement at the image of Tea Party folks trying to follow a C-span broadcast. No music. No graphics. No commentator to tell them what to think... They'd have to listen, and think for themselves...
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What "comments"? The "invisible ink" comments? Sorry; doesn't square.
 
hazlnut said:
My comments were more amusement at the image of Tea Party folks trying to follow a C-span broadcast. No music. No graphics. No commentator to tell them what to think... They'd have to listen, and think for themselves...
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This post is obviously from a poster that only gets his news in 20 second sound bites..has no idea except for what Madcow tells him about the TEA party

A proclaimed "moderate" that doesn't get what T.E.A. stands for..:confused:

OR that it is a bipartisan organization... :lamo

I AM a member of the Tea Party Patriots and I'll compare my I.Q. with about 98% of you! And my knowledge of the Constitution with anyone.

It is YOU sir who displays ignorance!
 
8 promises about 7% of our economy = 1 hour on CSPAN in more than a half year.

Is this the Liberal definition of Hope, Change and Unity? Or a reflection of the content of their deliberations?

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Somehow I think this has a tie to why Obama is so forthcoming about the screwup on the airline bomber. You just don't see politicians like that saying "The buck stops here". Notice how the press glombed onto that and it has dominated the news? Let's do a little diversion from the healthcare debocale. ;)
 
Kal'Stang said:
Not always. Sometimes they are a diversionary tactic to keep people from examining a more important issue.
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This attempted terrorist attack certainly drew attention away from the healthcare socialization efforts.
 
Erod said:
This attempted terrorist attack certainly drew attention away from the healthcare socialization efforts.
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Either that or he's blaming someone else? Who might that be?
 
"They said it would be transparent. Why isn't it?" said Sestak, a Delaware County Democrat, in a meeting with Tribune-Review editors and reporters. "At times, I find the caucus is a real disappointment. We aren't transparent, not just to the public but at times to the members."

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Sestak said political deals that Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska and others cut in closing the health care bill were a disgrace: "To think that you would hold out to close a deal for a special interest is absolutely wrong."
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http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_661036.html

Stealthcare...
"Change you can believe in."

The Dems Healthcare Slogan:
"Show me tha money."

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Erod said:
This attempted terrorist attack certainly drew attention away from the healthcare socialization efforts.
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American said:
Either that or he's blaming someone else? Who might that be?
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I'm blaming those that want attention diverted from the HCB. Don't get me wrong. I'm not blaming them for the attack. I'm blaming them for keeping the discussion about it going. I'm blaming them for keeping the debate about the HCB among themselves instead of making it transparent. And that's just for the politicians. I also blame the media for sensationalizing one thing while ignoring something else.
 
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