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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    You're right about that aspect, but it also has to do with viral assimilation. Sometimes people come into contact with HIV through a small blood transmission, for example, but don't become infected because the virus doesn't proliferate. With HPV in your blood, the chances that HIV will 'take' is much higher.
    Who cares how it is trasmitted?......
    There is no good reason to admit people with infectious diiseases into the U.S........

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Who cares how it is trasmitted?......
    There is no good reason to admit people with infectious diiseases into the U.S........
    Why?

    You still haven't given a reason.

    AIDS has low risk transmission status because it can only be transmitted by blood, just like hepatitis... but people with hepatitis can enter the U.S.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    [quote=Orius;1058464078]
    Why?

    You still haven't given a reason.
    The reason is that in allowing diseased immigrants into this country, puts every citizen at risk, even if it is a small one.....
    Any risk that is preventable is unacceptable, IMO.....

    AIDS has low risk transmission status because it can only be transmitted by blood, just like hepatitis... but people with hepatitis can enter the U.S
    There are four types of hepatitis, but I assume you mean 'C'....
    People with "C' should be banned as well.......

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    The reason is that in allowing diseased immigrants into this country, puts every citizen at risk, even if it is a small one.....
    Any risk that is preventable is unacceptable, IMO.....
    If there is such a risk, it has always been there. People aren't forced to do blood screenings at immigration, so we are relying on their own testimony and visible appearance of vitality as indicators of health.

    What if an infected person is a doctor? Are we going to reject a trained professional who could offer benefits to our society because of their minimal risk? A lawyer? An engineer? A scientist?

    Immigration is one of the life bloods of the U.S. Creating barriers to it only hinders your economy.
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    [quote=Orius;1058464182]If there is such a risk, it has always been there. People aren't forced to do blood screenings at immigration, so we are relying on their own testimony and visible appearance of vitality as indicators of health.

    When Ellis Island was open, you did have to undergo a health check, if you had, TB, conjunctivitis, etc., you were denied access & it should be that way now.....
    What if an infected person is a doctor? Are we going to reject a trained professional who could offer benefits to our society because of their minimal risk? A lawyer? An engineer? A scientist?


    What's this 'we' crap, are you a U.S. citizen, or a Canadian?......
    British Columbia is already over-run with immigrants, now you would add diseased ones as well?.....
    If they are so valuable, Canada can take them, they need the help....
    If a doctor does not have accredidation from a U.S. recognized school, their MD degree is worthless here, that's why you see Pakis driving cab in NYC....
    Besides we already have too many lawyers here anyway....

    Immigration is one of the life bloods of the U.S. Creating barriers to it only hinders your economy
    Immigration?... Fine....
    Diseased immigration?.... NO THANKS!
    Besides that, you are using exceptional examples, the average diseased immigrant will likely be unskilled.....

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What the **** does that have to do with who we choose to let into this country? Coming to this country is a privilege not a right. If we wanted to be ass holes and say no red head people or people with big noses then we can say no people with red hair and big noses granted entry into the USA because that is our right as a country. Denying entry to those with dangerous diseases is a right that any country with a ounce of common sense should exercise.

    One infected immigrant is one too many.
    So then you think freedom is just something only American citizens should enjoy?

    I'm sure I could find postings from you on how we have the greatest health care in the world, so why would you deny someone access to it? If someone wants to come here for medical treatment then why would you want to stop them? It's not like they will infect people they walk by on the street.

    Doesn't everyone deserve democracy or is that just a hollow chant? If they want the freedoms we have they can only come here if they are the ones you like?

    Go tell Magic Johnson that you want him to leave the country because he is infected.
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    So then you think freedom is just something only American citizens should enjoy?

    I'm sure I could find postings from you on how we have the greatest health care in the world, so why would you deny someone access to it? If someone wants to come here for medical treatment then why would you want to stop them? It's not like they will infect people they walk by on the street.

    Doesn't everyone deserve democracy or is that just a hollow chant? If they want the freedoms we have they can only come here if they are the ones you like?

    Go tell Magic Johnson that you want him to leave the country because he is infected.
    They can be free in their own country, we don't owe them freedom...
    Magic Johnson is a U.S. citizen.....Fail.......

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Who cares how it is trasmitted?......
    There is no good reason to admit people with infectious diiseases into the U.S........
    By that logic, which I must assume is based on some safety factor, we should get all the people with HIV/AIDS out of the country.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post

    The reason is that in allowing diseased immigrants into this country, puts every citizen at risk, even if it is a small one.....
    Any risk that is preventable is unacceptable, IMO.....

    There are four types of hepatitis, but I assume you mean 'C'....
    People with "C' should be banned as well.......
    Why not all infectious diseases? Round them all up and ship them off to an island. After all, any risk is unacceptable.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    By that logic, which I must assume is based on some safety factor, we should get all the people with HIV/AIDS out of the country.
    I would not abridge their rights a s a U.S. citizen......
    However, in certain cases, it makes sense, ala Typhoid Mary.....
    Last edited by Partisan; 01-05-10 at 02:18 PM.

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