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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Well, herpes and the flu typically aren't lethal, and you can't infect anyone with cancer.

    Don't really know much about hepatitis.
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    There aren't bans on people with hepatitis, herpes, cancer, the flu, or any other potentially lethal disease, so why does AIDS get special treatment? The immigration policy was a symbol of stigma, nothing else.

    If people protect themselves when engaging in intercourse then they won't get AIDS. It's that simple. You have to be pretty stupid or ignorant to get it.
    People coming into the country aren't subject to blood screenings, so those with AIDS could just as easily not reveal their condition. So why reject those who do reveal it? That is punishing the honest.

    Letting them in is not going to change the over all situation.
    Well, by your reasoning, they are already stupid or ignorant if they are already infected.....
    That poses the question: Why should we allow stupid, ignorant, deadly disease infected people into this country?.....

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, herpes and the flu typically aren't lethal, and you can't infect anyone with cancer.

    Don't really know much about hepatitis.
    Herpes can be a vector for HIV/AIDS (the reasons still aren't clear), and hepatitis is lethal if not treated with interferon within the first 6 months. It can be contracted the same way as HIV.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Well, by your reasoning, they are already stupid or ignorant if they are already infected.....
    That poses the question: Why should we allow stupid, ignorant, deadly disease infected people into this country?.....
    I would amend what I said to include "in the U.S.", a place where education and resources for protection are abundant and there is no excuse. We don't know how the infected immigrants got it. They are presumably coming to the U.S. for a better life and I see no reason to deny them that just because they have AIDS.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I would amend what I said to include "in the U.S.", a place where education and resources for protection are abundant and there is no excuse. We don't know how the infected immigrants got it. They are presumably coming to the U.S. for a better life and I see no reason to deny them that just because they have AIDS.
    Let Canada take them, we don't want 'em.....

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    And you want to add more people to that why?



    We do not need to import anymore.



    Considering the fact it is estimated that 1 in 4 Americans has or will get a STD we do not need to expose those people to imported diseases.Not everybody who got aids/HIV got it due to intravenous drug use or unprotected sex,some got it due to rape,being born with it or tainted medical supplies.
    So you're against freedom? Do you have some statistic on immigrants with HIV/AIDS infecting others or are you just afraid of shadows and like to try and scare others too?

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    So you're against freedom?
    What the **** does that have to do with who we choose to let into this country? Coming to this country is a privilege not a right. If we wanted to be ass holes and say no red head people or people with big noses then we can say no people with red hair and big noses granted entry into the USA because that is our right as a country. Denying entry to those with dangerous diseases is a right that any country with a ounce of common sense should exercise.


    Do you have some statistic on immigrants with HIV/AIDS infecting others
    One infected immigrant is one too many.
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If we wanted to be ass holes and say no red head people or people with big noses then we can say no people with red hair and big noses granted entry into the USA because that is our right as a country.
    That reason makes the same amount of sense as denying those with HIV entry.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage
    One infected immigrant is one too many.
    But you haven't really explained why.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Herpes can be a vector for HIV/AIDS (the reasons still aren't clear), and hepatitis is lethal if not treated with interferon within the first 6 months. It can be contracted the same way as HIV.




    Aren't clear?



    Open sores? I'm no scientist, but isn't it obvious?
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Aren't clear?

    Open sores? I'm no scientist, but isn't it obvious?
    You're right about that aspect, but it also has to do with viral assimilation. Sometimes people come into contact with HIV through a small blood transmission, for example, but don't become infected because the virus doesn't proliferate. With HPV in your blood, the chances that HIV will 'take' is much higher.

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