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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It was implemented as a knee jerk reaction no doubts about that.

    Why it was kept in place for so long is a good question.

    But consider this. For those 22 years, 8 years was under a Democratic president and the rest under Republican. In no way would such a ban be turned over by a Republican President, as it would piss off the base too much. That leaves 8 years of Clinton for it to be overturned. Problem comes here that most of Clinton's presidency was with a hostile Congress which in no way would allow such a victory for the President at the time, and the very fact that Clinton came to power a few years after the ban came into place so it was still in the "dumb" years of AIDs/HIV thinking. So in many ways, it was only now that it was possible to get rid of the ban where the religious conservatives were push out in all aspects of government and sanity has been put back (at least on this issue).



    Of course hackery prevents you from realizing the US has given more money for Aids research than any other country, under democrats AND republicans....


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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Of course hackery prevents you from realizing the US has given more money for Aids research than any other country, under democrats AND republicans....


    And yet promoted the spread of AIDs in Africa.. how ironic.. And per capita, you have not.
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    The US has finally lifted its immigration ban on sufferers of HIV/Aids.
    Finally? Yes thats all we need, more people with deadly transmittable diseases.

    What can possibly be the rational for this?


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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And yet promoted the spread of AIDs in Africa.. how ironic.. And per capita, you have not.
    How so? Please no conspiracy crap like" the government invented aids to kill the black man" or religious bashing like" Damn catholics and christian organizations preaching that waiting until marriage crap".
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How so? Please no conspiracy crap like" the government invented aids to kill the black man" or religious bashing like" Damn catholics and christian organizations preaching that waiting until marriage crap".
    By promoting abstinence only over condom use in the US AID sent to Africa.
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    By promoting abstinence only over condom use in the US AID sent to Africa.
    The US did not cause the AIDS epidemic, and any help we offer is by choice and could be designed in any fashion that the majority of Americans favour. Whether it is the best solution is obviously debatable but to blame the US for Africas problems because our help isnt perfect is rather absurd.


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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And yet promoted the spread of AIDs in Africa.. how ironic.. And per capita, you have not.



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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Right. We "promoted" the spread of AIDS in Africa because we didn't buy them their condoms.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    By promoting abstinence only over condom use in the US AID sent to Africa.
    Are you saying that if those Catholic and Christian missionaries were not in Africa then those people would have been using condoms? Sounds like something an ignorant atheist trying to bash religious groups would suggest. It is not a religious group's responsibility to teach someone how to use a condom. The only thing those religious groups are doing is feeding people and telling people to wait until marriage before engaging in sex. Nowhere did they tell those people to have all the sex they want with whoever or whatever they want. And if they are not going to listen to a religious group telling them to wait until marriage why on earth would they listen to someone telling them to use a condom? In the US for example where sex education classes are taught and everybody knows to use a condom and why you should use a condom, it is estimated that 1 in 4 Americans has STD.

    Americans Fail to Protect Against STDs
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans may say they now a lot about sexually transmitted diseases but they do not practice what they preach when it comes to defending against them, according to a survey published on Tuesday.

    While one in four Americans will be infected with an STD -- and up to half of younger adults will be -- most of those surveyed believed they were not personally at risk.


    If you atheist are so damn worried about condoms in other countries then do what the religious groups except you can feed people and preach STDs, condoms and birth control pills. Christians have "feed the children for pennies a day" surely you atheist could have "feed the children and stop the STDs for pennies a day".
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It was implemented as a knee jerk reaction no doubts about that.

    Why it was kept in place for so long is a good question.

    But consider this. For those 22 years, 8 years was under a Democratic president and the rest under Republican. In no way would such a ban be turned over by a Republican President, as it would piss off the base too much. That leaves 8 years of Clinton for it to be overturned. Problem comes here that most of Clinton's presidency was with a hostile Congress which in no way would allow such a victory for the President at the time, and the very fact that Clinton came to power a few years after the ban came into place so it was still in the "dumb" years of AIDs/HIV thinking. So in many ways, it was only now that it was possible to get rid of the ban where the religious conservatives were push out in all aspects of government and sanity has been put back (at least on this issue).
    It shouldn't have been overturned.....
    Common sense tells us that allowing diseased individuals into our country puts the whole population at risk.....
    Now we can treat 'em on the public dime.....
    Just another part of the Dems plan to destroy the country....

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