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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Past or present, and is this a requirement?
    Period. I never said there was a requirement nor did I ever say the USA has to allow anyone inside it's borders. I'm merely arguing that it doesn't make much sense to be discriminatory against people with HIV/AIDS.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I've an objection to half truths.
    what half-truth?

    If a person doesn't engage in promiscuous sex, if he doesn't play with someone else's needles, he's not going to catch HIV. What are the alternatives....hhhmmmm...infected transfusion/plasma....deliberate attack and/or rape.... oh! Maybe you're think HIV is transmitted by toilet seats in dirty gas stations?

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    But not the only method of prevention.
    So? The "other" methods aren't 100% effective.

    Abstinence is.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Hmmm.....immigrants who are not infected with HIV present a 0.00% risk of infecting others with HIV. HIV infected immigrants present a risk of transmission >0%.

    Good enough for me.

    Since this is a free country, we do have the freedom to slam the doors in the face of anyone not meeting our standards for admission.
    Fortunately the standards aren't set by you and the people who set those standards are a bit more open minded and and less isolationist. Should we also "slam the doors in the face of anyone" who has a genetic disease as well? We wouldn't want them spreading around their defective genes. How about we screen them for neoconservativism and corporatism as well, we know what kind of damage they can do to our country and we don't need any more of them?

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    A post-issue musing:

    Ironic that people with AIDS were banned yet all other contageous and highly infectuous diseases were walking free and easily spread.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    If by "freedom" you mean the freedom to cross the US border at whim, then the answer is "what the **** do you think national borders are for?" and "of course foreigners aren't free to come and go as they please".

    Duh.



    Because they're not US citizens.



    They can either have democracy in their own country, or their can take their disease to France.

    I'm easy.



    Sounds reasonable.



    I will when I meet him. However, since he is a US citizen, he's not really germaine to the thread topic.
    Excellent responses. You've shown us you are inconsistent, morally bankrupt, exclusionary, pompus and either unintelligent or obtuse.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    what half-truth?

    If a person doesn't engage in promiscuous sex, if he doesn't play with someone else's needles, he's not going to catch HIV. What are the alternatives....hhhmmmm...infected transfusion/plasma....deliberate attack and/or rape.... oh! Maybe you're think HIV is transmitted by toilet seats in dirty gas stations?
    Or maybe you have difficulty grasping concepts. If you tell people that abstinence is the only or best way to prevent the spread of STDs then you are only giving them half the truth or half of the relevant information with which to make an informed decision.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Fortunately the standards aren't set by you
    In other words, you've lost the argument but aren't man enough to be honest about it.

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Or maybe you have difficulty grasping concepts. If you tell people that abstinence is the only or best way to prevent the spread of STDs then you are only giving them half the truth or half of the relevant information with which to make an informed decision.
    You mean if I tell them that the best way to avoid getting HIV is the best way to avoid, I'm not telling them the truth? Are you suggesting that I tell them an inferior method is better?

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    Re: US lifts HIV/Aids immigration ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Excellent responses. You've shown us you are inconsistent, morally bankrupt, exclusionary, pompus and either unintelligent or obtuse.
    What's a "pompus"?

    What you've shown us is that you can't win arguments, you resort to ad hominem attacks when you lose, and you can't spell.

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