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1,137 Cars Burned in France

Ah, my mistake then :)
thank you, I was born on the 25th of Jan, my Dad thought the nurse was bringing in a haggis and started to pipe me in using my umbilical cord as bag pipes, Lang may your central heating reekie, hoots mon and other patronising sasoknackers comments:)
 
An example of what I'm talking about:

The Crown Heights riot was one of the largest and most destructive riots in NYC history. Exactly 27 cars were burned.

An interesting story from last year, with background:

France's New Year's Tradition: Car-Burning - TIME

OK, so they burn cars.

Now, tell me how many people were killed in the French "riots", and how many people were killed during the 1992 LA riots
 
OK, so they burn cars.

Now, tell me how many people were killed in the French "riots", and how many people were killed during the 1992 LA riots

Dammit, bub, you beat me to it.

I was also going to mention the times when it was legal to hang a man for sleeping with a woman of a different skin color, or for being out after dark with the wrong skin color, or for opening his mouth to a man of a different skin color.

And that's just a few choice samples from our last 50 or so years.

Civilized.

:lol:
 
It's a dumb tradition. So what? People have insurance, car manufacturers get a bit more business and so do car salesmen. :shrug:

Europe is full of weird traditions that look retarded to outsiders. How about the running with bulls in Spain? People actually die in those. Or the tomato fights during the Tomatina; or the eggs and flour fights that leave the city streets a freaking mess.

It's not about being civilized. It's about letting your hair down and doing retarded ****. You know, like you guys do on Spring Break.
 
Funny how some people are very keen on using deaths based on excess mortality when talking about French natural disasters but refuse to admit its relevance or even existance when talking about the effects of the Iraq war...
 
OK, so they burn cars.

Now, tell me how many people were killed in the French "riots", and how many people were killed during the 1992 LA riots

2 v. 53.

If the 1992 riots happened every single year like clockwork, you might have more of a point. They were an exceptional event that was absolutely abhorrent.

Again, my surprise here is not that people rioted - it's that people riot every year, everyone knows it's going to happen, and nobody does anything about it. If we had riots like that every single year, I'd be disgusted at that.

It's a dumb tradition. So what? People have insurance, car manufacturers get a bit more business and so do car salesmen. :shrug:

Europe is full of weird traditions that look retarded to outsiders. How about the running with bulls in Spain? People actually die in those. Or the tomato fights during the Tomatina; or the eggs and flour fights that leave the city streets a freaking mess.

It's not about being civilized. It's about letting your hair down and doing retarded ****. You know, like you guys do on Spring Break.

In the Spring Break, Spain, and Tomatina examples, the crowds are not going out and destroying valuable property belonging to thousands of innocent people. Also, did you honestly just analogize getting drunk on spring break to rioting and committing arson?
 
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Where were these riots you keep banging on about? There is no mention of riots in the OP. 1,000 cars get set alight all over a country the size of Texas. That's thinly spread, not a riot.
 
In the Spring Break, Spain, and Tomatina examples, the crowds are not going out and destroying valuable property belonging to thousands of innocent people. Also, did you honestly just analogize getting drunk on spring break to rioting and committing arson?

Yeah, I did. Because it's the same stupid mindset at work. Humans doing stupid things when they think they have an excuse to do so. The majority of spring breakers won't get into trouble, just like the majority of French people can party without burning cars. Unfortunately others will do dangerous or illegal things, like slipping a date rape drug in their hot friend's drink or burning the neighbor's car. How do you expect to fix random behavior like this? A cop behind every spring breaker? A horde of cops on every single French street on New Year's Eve? Impossible. Warning people of what could potentially happen and hoping for the best is really the only thing that can be done.
 
I wasn't trying to "prove" anything. I'm astonished that such a massive incident can occur in any first-world country, be it France or the US. I was surprised by that, so I posted a thread about it. You came in and posted one picture of something of a different magnitude and another of something that's entirely unrelated. I'm sorry you felt the need to do that.

I think this occurs more than we may think. I remember articles a few years ago where the ghetto's in France had a few weeks of car burnings which largely were the underclass Muslims forced to live in those ghetto's --- I sort of assumed that was a rather frequent occurrence.
 
2 v. 53.

If the 1992 riots happened every single year like clockwork, you might have more of a point. They were an exceptional event that was absolutely abhorrent.

Again, my surprise here is not that people rioted - it's that people riot every year, everyone knows it's going to happen, and nobody does anything about it. If we had riots like that every single year, I'd be disgusted at that.

Killing people is worse than burning cars, but that's just my opinion here
 
Yeah, I did. Because it's the same stupid mindset at work. Humans doing stupid things when they think they have an excuse to do so. The majority of spring breakers won't get into trouble, just like the majority of French people can party without burning cars. Unfortunately others will do dangerous or illegal things, like slipping a date rape drug in their hot friend's drink or burning the neighbor's car. How do you expect to fix random behavior like this? A cop behind every spring breaker? A horde of cops on every single French street on New Year's Eve? Impossible. Warning people of what could potentially happen and hoping for the best is really the only thing that can be done.

If there's no way to prevent people from burning cars like this, then why is it that we don't see something similar in every other country? Again, regardless of what you say, i see a huge difference between people doing tequila shots and people torching cars.

Killing people is worse than burning cars, but that's just my opinion here

I agree, and if DP had been around during the LA riots, I would have posted a thread asking how something like that could have happened in a civilized nation. Furthermore, the point remains that there is a significant distinction between a regular event and an isolated occurrence.
 
I agree, and if DP had been around during the LA riots, I would have posted a thread asking how something like that could have happened in a civilized nation. Furthermore, the point remains that there is a significant distinction between a regular event and an isolated occurrence.

Not all segments of American society are civilized. Some areas are tribal.
Some will burn down their communities at the flick of a switch... trained by a pathetic, pimp-like leadership.

These people live in the land of opportunity, and are taught to be helpless victims. That isn't civil.

To think, we have a President cut from that cloth.
Trained for 20-years by a man spewing that vile poison.

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Not all segments of American society are civilized. Some areas are tribal.
Some will burn down their communities at the flick of a switch... trained by a pathetic, pimp-like leadership.

These people live in the land of opportunity, and are taught to be helpless victims. That isn't civil.

To think, we have a President cut from that cloth.
Trained for 20-years by a man spewing that vile poison.

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You're not especially fond of black people, we get it.
 
I agree, and if DP had been around during the LA riots, I would have posted a thread asking how something like that could have happened in a civilized nation. Furthermore, the point remains that there is a significant distinction between a regular event and an isolated occurrence.

But it's not an isolated occurence, isn't murder by firearm the first cause of death for young Afro-Americans?
 
You're not especially fond of black people, we get it.

Is there anything false about what is above? Anything?
All races can be tribal... in fact we have detrimental tribes from many races; Asians, White... Black.

Now, as to your slight of keyboard about me being racist... let me pass along a story from when I was a little younger.

At a bar at Belmont Shores, I went to get a drink, but the bartenders kept passing me by. Two gorgeous black girls were in front and told me to join them at the bar so I could get the bartender's attention... I was still passed by and started making jokes. We were all having a great laugh. After finally getting a drink we sat down and had a good time. After some discussion I started with "some of..." and they BOTH finished my sentence... "...my best friends are black." (I've had black friends throughout my life; school, sports, business). Then they said something that stuck with me. (Paraphrasing) They told me they didn't appreciate the comment. They didn't feel like "black" Americans, but Americans. I ended up dating one of the girls for quite some time. We were terribly fond of each other.

I don't think your comments serve anyone; why can't we speak openly about the problems?
What civilized people flames it own community?

Obama had been exposed to poison for 20-years, and is the type of human solvent that inflames tensions. He sought out Wright, he accused the Police of being "stupid" (when there was no reason for him to insert himself into the equation)... was it due to his training? To think, it took Americans 20-minutes to understand what Wright is... Obama... it took 20-years and the pressure of a presidential campaign.

My girlfriend would have been sickened by Wright.

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