Thread: 1,137 Cars Burned in France

Originally Posted by zimmer

You see, that's the French Region of the US.

Similar highly corrupt culture, socialists running the show for decades, and ...no plan for their worst and what would be most predictable disaster.

State government failed in NO,LA. City government failed. Do the Feds need to plan for every community? Kommunity Organizing?



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Do you realize that Sarkozy is not socialist at all?

An example of what I'm talking about:

The Crown Heights riot was one of the largest and most destructive riots in NYC history. Exactly 27 cars were burned.

An interesting story from last year, with background:

France's New Year's Tradition: Car-Burning - TIME

But as yet another orgy of automobile arson on Wednesday demonstrated, the torching of cars in France has not only become an everyday event; it's also now a regular form of expression for disenfranchised suburban youths wanting to make sure the rest of the country doesn't forget they exist. And their fiery presence is never felt so strongly as it is each New Year's Eve — the day of France's unofficial festival of car-burning.

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In a country where car-burning isn't a common symptom of socioeconomic unrest, news of so many automobiles being torched would be alarming — if not a sign of brewing insurrection. In France, however, word of the destruction that accompanied the evening the French call Saint-Sylvestre was met with a mix of Gaulic shrugs and low-grade peevishness.

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Sarkozy's seemingly lax solution to tackling France's car-burning bonanza hardly reflects the gravity and scope of the problem. Nearly 43,000 cars were torched in France over the whole of 2007 — an average of almost 118 per day. Alliot-Marie stressed that the rise in the number of burnt cars on New Year's Eve 2008 came at the end of a year in which the total number of autos set alight in the first 11 months had decreased 15%, compared with the same period in 2007. But while annual figures may fluctuate, they've generally swelled since the late 1970s, when French suburban youths first started burning cars as a way to get the attention of society, the media and politicians.

Later the practice became an ambush tactic to draw law and fire authorities to the scene — where they'd then be attacked by gangs. Now the act works as a manner of daily protest against alienation, discrimination and the indifference of more affluent French society.

But another, less specifically-French, factor may also be behind the spike in car-burning rates. According to the National Observatory on Delinquency, as many as 20% of cars burned each year are suspected insurance fraud. If that trend, too, is on the rise, then New Year's Eve 2009 may be a veritable bonfire in France, as recession-bled car owners see the country's annual arson event as a chance to make some extra money.

Originally Posted by RightinNYC

1 137 cars burned in France: News24: World: News

Almost a new record, but just a few cars short.



How does this happen in a highly civilized country?

They don't realize that, when they protest western values by destroying things, they are actually creating a market to help further entrench western values. LOL. I hear that the auto industry in France is now hiring more workers.

Originally Posted by RightinNYC

1 137 cars burned in France: News24: World: News

Almost a new record, but just a few cars short.



How does this happen in a highly civilized country?

Oh sorry, I thought this was going to be about Obama's czars.

Originally Posted by bub

Do you realize that Sarkozy is not socialist at all?

Mes oui, and in a past thread I stated something along the lines...

It's incredible when you side regularly with the French President's world view over the American president's.

I'd happily swap President's, something I never dreamed would happen in my lifetime. But that's how low we've sunken.
A naive egomaniac with a big hole in the experience department... a hole that's filled with contempt for what makes the country work and prosper.

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Originally Posted by Toothpicvic

I don't know what the point of this thread is, because there isn't one (other than dissing French people). You didn't really "prove" anything just by posting a news link about riots. So I just posted some pics that don't really "prove" anything about the US either.

I wasn't trying to "prove" anything. I'm astonished that such a massive incident can occur in any first-world country, be it France or the US. I was surprised by that, so I posted a thread about it. You came in and posted one picture of something of a different magnitude and another of something that's entirely unrelated. I'm sorry you felt the need to do that.

Originally Posted by PeteEU

15k+ people die in the US every year due to lack of healthcare. How is that civilized? So since the 14k people died in France how many have died in the US due to lack of healthcare?

That's why people from all over the world come to the US to have their lives saved. And tons from Canada... where they don't have the tools or Doctors to do the job. Just think, two of Canada's biggest cities (combined population: 2.5 million), only a couple hours apart couldn't handle a moderately complicated multiple birth. They sent the family to an American town across the border; Population 55,000.

Over 7000 people (more than one a day) are murdered in the US by a gun. How is that civilized?

How many died in the USSR, Czechoslovakia, east Germany, Romania, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Poland... because they didn't have guns? How about Hitler? I think our failing is not having harsh enough/fast enough punishment for gun criminals.

At least it was a one off thing in France due to extremes.

We have greater extremes in the US, but our Doc's don't go on vacation en masse, and our people don't die like flies because of the extremes. Do you wonder why?

And it is not like you did not know that Katrina was going to hit...so using your excuse is a bit pathetic. You could not prevent it, but you did know it was coming. The French and Europe in general did not know that the heat wave would be that bad and last that long.

Yes, and it shows you what happens when socialists run the show for decades... DECAY. You ever wonder why Houston is the home for oil and not NO, LA?

The heat wave that killed 15k in France killed thousands across Europe and was due to insane hot weather.

It was pretty hot, I was there, but not insane. Try again.

It is not normal to have air conditioners in France or most of middle Europe because the temperature normally dont go over 32 degrees during the summer, so there is no reason to have air conditioners.

Sure there is a reason for them, but Europeans live a lower standard of living, which means... no AC for their little boxes.

But back to the actual story, the burning of cars in France. Insurance fraud. And feel free to make fun of this part of French society (most French love making fun of it also), but put in perspective when you use it in "we are superior" than the French attempt.

We are superior. We've protected their arrogant asses for 70-years, and it's French like intrusions into our system that are making it weak.

Was this insurance fraud too?Why we don’t call them “Muslim riots” in Paris suburbs | Analysis & Opinion | Reuters

Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

A few rounds of 5.56 or CS or fire hoses, or sonic cannons can stop a riot. strict prosecutions will deter the savages next year..... Easy as pie...



How do you propose one stops a hurricane?

Python it is a well known fact God is British, he does not crap on his own doorstep...........no hurricanes or earthquakes here

ps it was a glib response to whom-ever introduced the killer heatwave in France.

Ps French students in the 70s and 80s were the best student rioters in the world.

We had a cultural exchange program with them.