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    Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    Dec. 31 (Bloomberg) -- The Mayo Clinic, praised by President Barack Obama as a national model for efficient health care, will stop accepting Medicare patients as of tomorrow at one of its primary-care clinics in Arizona, saying the U.S. government pays too little.

    More than 3,000 patients eligible for Medicare, the government’s largest health-insurance program, will be forced to pay cash if they want to continue seeing their doctors at a Mayo family clinic in Glendale, northwest of Phoenix, said Michael Yardley, a Mayo spokesman. The decision, which Yardley called a two-year pilot project, won’t affect other Mayo facilities in Arizona, Florida and Minnesota.

    Obama in June cited the nonprofit Rochester, Minnesota-based Mayo Clinic and the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio for offering “the highest quality care at costs well below the national norm.” Mayo’s move to drop Medicare patients may be copied by family doctors, some of whom have stopped accepting new patients from the program, said Lori Heim, president of the American Academy of Family Physicians, in a telephone interview yesterday.

    “Many physicians have said, ‘I simply cannot afford to keep taking care of Medicare patients,’” said Heim, a family doctor who practices in Laurinburg, North Carolina. “If you truly know your business costs and you are losing money, it doesn’t make sense to do more of it.”

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    The Mayo organization had 3,700 staff physicians and scientists and treated 526,000 patients in 2008. It lost $840 million last year on Medicare, the government’s health program for the disabled and those 65 and older, Mayo spokeswoman Lynn Closway said.
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    Re: Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients - Bloomberg.com

    Remember folks, the Senate just passed more Government in your life, more Government healthcare coming. Don't be fooled, they want everyone on a Medicare type single payer system. This is our future unless we stop it.
    While it certainly sucks for those who won't be able to use those services anymore, it does work towards my agenda.

    Government pricing models are inadequate and when you compound that with the generous services that Medicare offers at below market rates, you get cost inflation.
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    Re: Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    The Mayo organization had 3,700 staff physicians and scientists and treated 526,000 patients in 2008. It lost $840 million last year on Medicare, the government’s health program for the disabled and those 65 and older, Mayo spokeswoman Lynn Closway said.
    That represents an $840,000,000 annual subsidy from for-profit insurers to Medicare.

    Goddamn for-profit insurers, always trying to ruin America. If only we could eliminate them, we could prevent travesties like this.
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    Re: Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    Next Mayo announcement will be that they are moving the clinic to Nebraska where federal medical care money has moved. A new twist on "follow the money".

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    Re: Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    With the announcements in the reduction of medicare payments coming under Obama's I Don't Care About Your Health Plans, the House and Senate have become the Death panel they claim does not exist.

    But because they a branches of the new corrupt to the max Obama disciple controlled Government and technically not a panel, they can continue to claim there is no such thing as a death panel.

    If you go out and get some illness that the Obama plan to have die plan won't cover it's your own damn fault.

    More and more of this is going to be happening and when doctors more out of fields like soo many have already done with O.B.G.Y.N. rationing becaomes a bigger problem.

    You have to be a really stupid idiot to think for one minute the plans under consideration are going to do anything but make the best health care system comparable to Canada and the U.K. who both have systems that are almost as bad as Kenya or some other 3rd world garbage pit.

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    Re: Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    I live in Phoenix, and I am familar with the Mayo Clinic in question. This particular clinic is like a family practice clinic where patients can go see a primary care physical for common illnesses. In reading the tread this is the only Mayo clinic that has taken this measure. There is another clinic in Scottsdale that is like a diagnositic center, and they did not change there practice. Medicare is still accepted at this and other Mayo Clinics.

    Like anything in life, if you want something expensive, you should have the means to pay for it.

    Medicare should not get stuck with paying for expensive treatment for patients, if a patient can recieve the same treatment for less at a non-Mayo clinic. On the same note, Mayo should not have to lower its prices to accomodate Medicare patients.
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    Re: Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    I live in Phoenix, and I am familar with the Mayo Clinic in question. This particular clinic is like a family practice clinic where patients can go see a primary care physical for common illnesses. In reading the tread this is the only Mayo clinic that has taken this measure. There is another clinic in Scottsdale that is like a diagnositic center, and they did not change there practice. Medicare is still accepted at this and other Mayo Clinics.

    Like anything in life, if you want something expensive, you should have the means to pay for it.

    Medicare should not get stuck with paying for expensive treatment for patients, if a patient can recieve the same treatment for less at a non-Mayo clinic. On the same note, Mayo should not have to lower its prices to accomodate Medicare patients.
    You think this is about the Mayo Clinic being over priced?
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    Re: Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    I'm on Medicare here in Texas. I also have supplemental insurance to cover the "gap." As for how it is administered, I like it. Piece of cake. But here is the catch. I'm able to see my own personal physician BECAUSE I was a former patient on private insurance. Effectively I was "grandfathered" in because I am a long time patient. What I have found is that he is no longer accepting NEW Medicare patients because it doesn't cover the costs. More and more people who go onto Medicare are going to have to deal with this problem. Most doctors will not accept Medicaid because it doesn't even pay for the administration of the paperwork. And now this is spreading to Medicare as well.

    This is what happens when "Big Brother" distorts the free market place where the value of everything is eventually settled. Most everything so far as I know that Medicare pays for is something the government dictates (sorta like the Soviet Union, Cuba or some communist nation would do). How they arrive at these amounts is up to some bureaucrat who may not know his or her way to the bathroom. It certainly is not market based.

    Anytime the market is upset by the government you can be certain that chaos, poor service and dissatisfaction will be the result. The truth is that our government is our enemy. That's why the framers of our Constitution set so many limits on what it could do. Unfortunately those in power today have decided that the "general welfare" clause overrides every other thing in the Constitution and that we need to emulate the Soviet Union because it worked so very well. Hooray for big government! Ain't Amerika grand?

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    Re: Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You think this is about the Mayo Clinic being over priced?
    It is great that you brought up this point. If the Mayo clinic. which has been a poster child for Obamacare is taking this action, think about what it means for overall health care services.

    In a competitve world, I wonder if this will mean that our brighest kids will deicde to work in a nation that does not cater to those who contribute nothing to society.

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    Re: Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    That represents an $840,000,000 annual subsidy from for-profit insurers to Medicare.

    Goddamn for-profit insurers, always trying to ruin America. If only we could eliminate them, we could prevent travesties like this.
    So can the left and Obama explain how a medical facility can run if medicare is paying less then the care cost?

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