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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Thank you.

    Was that done in a military court or a criminal court? And was it done under Obama's watch or Bush's watch?

    See folks? Much addo.
    In January 2003, he pleaded guilty to terrorism charges at a federal court in Boston, Massachusetts. During the sentencing hearing he stated that he was an Islamic fundamentalist and declared himself an enemy of the United States and in league with Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid_(shoe_bomber)

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Thank you.

    Was that done in a military court or a criminal court? And was it done under Obama's watch or Bush's watch?

    See folks? Much addo.
    The difference was the nationality of the person in question. Richard Reid was a British born terrorist. Can you imagine the breakdown in the diplomacy between the U.S. and the U.K. if we had decided to waterboard him? We couldn't even try him under a military court. This is a guy who tried to blow himself up on a plane. And we couldn't try him in a military court and had to send him to a normal prison.
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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The difference was the nationality of the person in question. Richard Reid was a British born terrorist. Can you imagine the breakdown in the diplomacy between the U.S. and the U.K. if we had decided to waterboard him? We couldn't even try him under a military court. This is a guy who tried to blow himself up on a plane. And we couldn't try him in a military court and had to send him to a normal prison.
    Yes, and send him to prison for life too. All's well that ends well, hey? He mighta skated out on the waterboarding but he's takin' it up da butt, just the same, I'm sure.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Here we go again, Obama has to gather in all the intelligence then of course he will need the advice of Carter & Kerry, by the time he actually gets around to doing something it will probably be time to install his successor.
    Tell that to the two dead pirates.

    Again the hyper-partisans find fault in anything President Obama does, even if it's exactly what the last 10 Presidents would have done... Get advice. Make a decision.
    Last edited by hazlnut; 12-31-09 at 05:24 PM.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    So...You're the president of the United States. A failed terrorist attempt just occurred. The government of the country in which the terrorist comes from is willing to work with you...It's 3 am. What do you do?
    Wait 3 days to even address it

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    same reason richard reed was in the criminal system.
    That was a mistake by Bush also

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe he'll shoot a cruise missile into a tent.
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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wait 3 days to even address it
    What are you talking about, statements were issued immediately--Friday, Saturday, Sunday. He took 2 days to wait for the initial investigation to get underway before giving a press conference.

    This was "isolated" in the sense that it wasn't part of a bigger coordinated attack on that same day.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What are you talking about, statements were issued immediately--Friday, Saturday, Sunday. He took 2 days to wait for the initial investigation to get underway before giving a press conference.

    This was "isolated" in the sense that it wasn't part of a bigger coordinated attack on that same day.
    Trying to spin the "isolated" comments is lame. Admit it was a mistake that made the President look like he is disconnected from reality.

    No one likes the fact that there are a bunch of terrorists trying to kill people who do not think like them. That being said, minimizing what these people are willing to do puts Americans at risk for cheap political gain.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Thank you.

    Was that done in a military court or a criminal court? And was it done under Obama's watch or Bush's watch?

    See folks? Much addo.
    Sure, if I had said Reid should have been in the criminal justice system.
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