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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Anyway back on topic, maybe we should consider covering Tora-Bora and northeastern Pakistan with pork rind dust. We could call it Agent Pink unlike the real Agent Pink.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

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    Anyway back on topic, maybe we should consider covering Tora-Bora and northeastern Pakistan with pork rind dust. We could call it Agent Pink unlike the real Agent Pink.





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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Anyway back on topic, maybe we should consider covering Tora-Bora and northeastern Pakistan with pork rind dust. We could call it Agent Pink unlike the real Agent Pink.

    Funny post, but if you really think about it, it's not a bad idea.
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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He's smarter than Bush, but if he gets to aggressive and invades Yeman, I'll declare him a fool like Bush. When will this sink in, it's not about people or parties, but about actions and policy.
    Wrong. Bush knew it was a war on Terror. Obama no longer calls it a war on terror and has now made it a war on AlQaeda only.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wrong. Bush knew it was a war on Terror. Obama no longer calls it a war on terror and has now made it a war on AlQaeda only.
    And it's even worse than that. Obama calls it a war, but then reads enemy combatants Miranda rights and give them a lawyer and trial in civilian criminal court. It's lunacy. Even by his own standards.
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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I said he had a history.
    What history was that, Boo. When you say he had a history, what is it you remember about that history, are you saying my recollection isn't true? Why so hesitant to discuss? Are you seriously going to try to telle you don't remember, JD?

    Actually we kidnapped civilians in WWII. And didn't count them as POW or non combatants. We knew even then that it was wrong. It was mostly kept secret.
    Were they offered Constitutional Rights, yes or no?

    I said choose a rule of law, but don't be silly and say they are spies. Or even Saboteurs.
    "Choose"...a rule of law? And no matter what we call them, our rule of law removed them from GC rights and you don't even respect that while calling for rule of law. JD, your usual circular argument raises its ugly head again.

    Same due process due all men. Remember, some are innocent. And innocent men are due justice. Not knowing which are which requires a process of knowing, due process. Rule of law.
    Due....."justice"? What, no process due? You're backing off to they being due "justice"? What's the matter JD, you claimed these men were due process...not justice. What process specifically are you speaking to here, access to our courts, Constitutional rights, what?
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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    More people were shot by some white christian loony in St. Louis since the last time I posted in this thread.

    While you were arguing about the "differences of civilizations," or how dying at the hands of a Muslim is worse than dying by way of crazy white guys, more white guys killed white guys. That's my only point, and none of you understand it.

    While you guys were debating about the Ft. Hood shooting the days after it happened, people were shot mass shooting style in Atlanta. There was the gym shooter too.

    Here - There have been an average of 44.5 murders every day in the United States since 9/11.

    Its been about 3,000 days since 9/11 when roughly 3,000 people died.

    That's an average of ONE murder every day by Muslim extremists in the US.

    How can this be anymore straight forward? You guys are so worried about something that statistically speaking is ultimately insignificant.

    You are 44x more likely to be killed by a US citizen than you are by a terrorist. But lets fight a war against Islam...

    Let's talk about Ft. Hood while people are getting shot in their offices, police are getting shot in the coffee shop and people are getting shot at their family's Christmas parties.

    Terrorists want us to continue this conversation.... They want us to think they are significant. They want us to say things like...

    TERRORISTS AREN'T GOING TO CHANGE THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE!!!!!
    (so long as we pass the patriot act so WE change the american way of life)
    and so it goes...

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by ScummyD View Post
    And it's even worse than that. Obama calls it a war, but then reads enemy combatants Miranda rights and give them a lawyer and trial in civilian criminal court. It's lunacy. Even by his own standards.
    Exactly right, Obama calls this a War against al Qaeda and there is no question that KSM the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks is a member of al Qaeda yet is being brought to this country and given U.S. Constitutional Rights. No wonder the American people are angry. This is indefensible and Boo runs from that reality.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    So...You're the president of the United States. A failed terrorist attempt just occurred. The government of the country in which the terrorist comes from is willing to work with you...It's 3 am. What do you do?
    wade into them, spilled their blood and don't stop hammering them until they are on their knees. In the long run this would be the short run.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    More people were shot by some white christian loony in St. Louis since the last time I posted in this thread.

    While you were arguing about the "differences of civilizations," or how dying at the hands of a Muslim is worse than dying by way of crazy white guys, more white guys killed white guys. That's my only point, and none of you understand it.

    While you guys were debating about the Ft. Hood shooting the days after it happened, people were shot mass shooting style in Atlanta. There was the gym shooter too.

    Here - There have been an average of 44.5 murders every day in the United States since 9/11.

    Its been about 3,000 days since 9/11 when roughly 3,000 people died.

    That's an average of ONE murder every day by Muslim extremists in the US.

    How can this be anymore straight forward? You guys are so worried about something that statistically speaking is ultimately insignificant.

    You are 44x more likely to be killed by a US citizen than you are by a terrorist. But lets fight a war against Islam...

    Let's talk about Ft. Hood while people are getting shot in their offices, police are getting shot in the coffee shop and people are getting shot at their family's Christmas parties.

    Terrorists want us to continue this conversation.... They want us to think they are significant. They want us to say things like...

    TERRORISTS AREN'T GOING TO CHANGE THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE!!!!!
    (so long as we pass the patriot act so WE change the american way of life)
    Your comparing apples to oranges, the murders in the U.S. are committed mostly by U.S. citizens, the constitution is clear in this regard. Attacks by terrorist are committed by people outside this country and the government's 1st and foremost duty is to protect it's citizens from outside attacks. To ignore this would make us insignificant in the eyes of the world. So under your theory we should have ignored Pearl Harbor?

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