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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Those "3am" ads the Hillary campaign ran were so spot on.
    I think Hillary got it wrong.

    I think Obama would tell Michelle to answer the phone and tell her to tell them to hold on and then go back to sleep.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    obtuse obama is characteristically all over the place on this one

    just like iran, just like afghanistan, just like gitmo, just like china---utterly incoherent

    his arguments, his positions, DO NOT HANG TOGETHER

    he started on this story by having his homeland secty say all was "clockwork"

    then, he's all about "isolated extremists" and "criminal suspects"

    and he's gonna conduct a "review"

    next, he goes, "systemic failure," "totally unacceptable," "catastrophic breach"

    now, he's suddenly suggesting military strikes vs yemen

    unbelievable

    how could anyone stand up for this guy?

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    You do know that in the decision-making process there are sometimes several options that they try to weigh in on, right?
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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    if you're president, your argument needs to be credible

    it therefore must be consistent, coherent, cogent

    it must inspire confidence

    hello

    how could anyone stick up for this guy?

    he's not gonna be the same man tomorrow

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Some of this post can be used to rebuke a couple of the earlier posts regarding slow Obama.

    Remember folks, Bush's decisions did not come immediately.
    Any that made the news?
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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Where to even begin with this putrid pile of words...

    First, Bush waited 2 years after 9/11 before doing anything with Iraq so its not like he woke up the night after and said "IRAQ!"

    Second, the fact of where the 9/11 terrorists came from had anything to do with Iraq. After 9/11 the Bush Administrations statement was that they were going to aggressively persue states who sponsored terrorist action. Not specifically the terrorist action on 9/11, not specifically terrorist action by al-qaeda. Iraq qualified for this as there was history, both past and present, of Sadam financing and supporting terror not to mention the more spurious notions that there may've been contact with him and Al-Qaeda as well.

    Third, just because the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi of birth doesn't mean we should've gone after Saudi Arabia. If 5 american born individuals immigrated into China, trained by the Chinese military, financed by the Chinese government, and then came back into America and set off some bombs should we go to war with the United States of America because those 5 happened to ethnically be American, or should we focus on the government that funded and supported them. Which, I should point out, IS what we did as the direct retaliation to 9/11. The DIRECT, immediete response was Afghanistan, not Iraq, whose government did directly have influence into the attack at hand. Iraq was less a direct sult of 9/11 and more a derivative of the War on Terror mantra and philosophy that grew out of that attack. So no, attacking Saudi Arabia simply because thats where these guys were born would've been asinine.

    Fourth, the Saudi's are not simply Bush Clan Friends, they're American allies. We have very strong diplmoatic ties with Saudi Arabia and the government there is an ally in the War on Terror. While there are definitely portions of the Saudi population that are problematic the government, by and large, are far more diplomatically alligned to us and useful than say those of iraq, afghanistan, iran, etc. Not only would it have made no sense to retaliate against them simply because the people that did it were from there, but it would've made no sense from a political, diplomatic, and strategic angle as well.

    So....was there a point to your post other than to try and bash Bush, rant about the war, and make incredibly inaccurate and factually flimsy comments? Cause I'm not seeing one.
    Even as a sponsor, Iraq hardly qualifies. If was foolhardy anyway you try and excuse it.

    BTW, he did start talking about Iraq the morning after. He went straight to Iraq in his efforts.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He went straight to Iraq in his efforts
    LOL!

    "straight to iraq"

    "in his efforts"

    now, there's some sophisticated analysis

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    If he's considering a "retaliatory" military strike against al Qaeda for what the bomber did . . .

    Then what the hell is the bomber doing sitting in the criminal justice system?

    Is it a criminal matter, or is it war?
    Good question. What did we do with the shoe bomber?

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Good question. What did we do with the shoe bomber?
    Richard Colvin Reid (born 12 August 1973),[1] also known as Abdul Raheem and as Tariq Raja, and often referred to in the media as the shoe bomber, was convicted on charges of terrorism and is currently serving a life sentence without parole in the United States for attempting to destroy a commercial aircraft in-flight by detonating explosives hidden in his shoes. According to al-Qaeda operative Mohammed Mansour Jabarah (who was captured and interrogated in Oman in 2002), Reid was a member of al-Qaeda and had been sent on the bombing mission by Khaled Shaikh Mohammed, a senior member of the organization.[2]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid_(shoe_bomber)

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Richard Colvin Reid (born 12 August 1973),[1] also known as Abdul Raheem and as Tariq Raja, and often referred to in the media as the shoe bomber, was convicted on charges of terrorism and is currently serving a life sentence without parole in the United States for attempting to destroy a commercial aircraft in-flight by detonating explosives hidden in his shoes. According to al-Qaeda operative Mohammed Mansour Jabarah (who was captured and interrogated in Oman in 2002), Reid was a member of al-Qaeda and had been sent on the bombing mission by Khaled Shaikh Mohammed, a senior member of the organization.[2]



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid_(shoe_bomber)
    Thank you.

    Was that done in a military court or a criminal court? And was it done under Obama's watch or Bush's watch?

    See folks? Much addo.

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