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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Can you point to the post that actually contained the answer then? I've read every post visible and you haven't answered it, so maybe you could try not posting in invisible type?




    Explain the basis of power of the totalitarian dictator and from whence his "right" to hold power derives.

    No, don't bother.

    Since the totalitarian dictator takes his throne by force at gunpoint, anyone with the ability to use force to displace him has an equal right to do so if they wish. Ergo, if the United States can overthrow a dictator by force of arms, we have a right to do so greater than the dictator's right to retain that throne, since the dictator himself established the foundation of his authority upon the dictum that Might Makes Right.

    Welcome to the real world. We have the "right" to overthrow any totalitarian dictator we wish to bump off, by their own example. That we choose to refrain from doing so is merely indicative of our own right to choose to act in our own interests.

    You've never understood the proper application of power to politics and diplomacy, have you?
    Also, Boo and his other liberal friends also judge everyone else by their own standards and believe other leaders around the world have the same beliefs and values as they do.

    Radical Islam is using the liberals in this country to promote their perverted ideology as liberals totally ignore the reality that is the ultimate reward for a radical Islamic fundamentalis to go to Allah and take some infidels with them.

    The belief that it is our responsibility to play by rules when our enemies blatantly violate those rules shows how naive and dangerous liberals have become.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Now.....who should the Messiah bomb to prove to the Left that he has testicles somewhere? Should we randomly bomb Yemen, whose weak government is cooperating with the US to some extent? Should we bomb Nigeria for spawning this Panty Raider? Should we launch cruise missiles to the some pirate cove in Somalia? How about if we simply launched some missiles to some point in the sea, since doing that will be no less efficacious to resolving this particular issue than throwing them anywhere else?

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Also, Boo and his other liberal friends also judge everyone else by their own standards and believe other leaders around the world have the same beliefs and values as they do.

    Radical Islam is using the liberals in this country to promote their perverted ideology as liberals totally ignore the reality that is the ultimate reward for a radical Islamic fundamentalis to go to Allah and take some infidels with them.

    The belief that it is our responsibility to play by rules when our enemies blatantly violate those rules shows how naive and dangerous liberals have become.
    It's worse than that. The liberals do not care how much damage is done to the United States as long as they can spin the issue and con the public that they're a solution not the problem. The only thing they care about is their corre agenda of imposing socialism on the United States, and they sincerely beleive that they'll be able to stay on top no matter how much damage they do.

    Then again, the political leadership of Germany thought the best way to control Hitler was to promote him to the Chancellorship where they can keep an eye on him. He wasn't going to do anything crazy once he took that office, right?

    Right, liberals?

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Can you point to the post that actually contained the answer then? I've read every post visible and you haven't answered it, so maybe you could try not posting in invisible type?
    Maybe it is beyond you as I answered it a second time in the post you are responding to. What does Ron White say you can't fix?



    Explain the basis of power of the totalitarian dictator and from whence his "right" to hold power derives.

    No, don't bother.

    Since the totalitarian dictator takes his throne by force at gunpoint, anyone with the ability to use force to displace him has an equal right to do so if they wish. Ergo, if the United States can overthrow a dictator by force of arms, we have a right to do so greater than the dictator's right to retain that throne, since the dictator himself established the foundation of his authority upon the dictum that Might Makes Right.

    Welcome to the real world. We have the "right" to overthrow any totalitarian dictator we wish to bump off, by their own example. That we choose to refrain from doing so is merely indicative of our own right to choose to act in our own interests.

    You've never understood the proper application of power to politics and diplomacy, have you?

    So, to provide the answer to the question you dodged, is that the dictator himself, in this case Saddam Hussein, provided all the justification we needed to overthrow him at the time of our choosing.

    Just in case you didn't notice, the United States was founded upon a profound disprespect for kings and tyrants.

    Since I'm not a socialist, I still don't respect kings or tyrants.
    As I said in the first answer, why not invade all such countries? We can be judge, jury and police for the entire world. So, no, Saddam did not provide any justification. That's you pretending we rule the world. Making us Saddam like. I don't buy it.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Also, Boo and his other liberal friends also judge everyone else by their own standards and believe other leaders around the world have the same beliefs and values as they do.

    Radical Islam is using the liberals in this country to promote their perverted ideology as liberals totally ignore the reality that is the ultimate reward for a radical Islamic fundamentalis to go to Allah and take some infidels with them.

    The belief that it is our responsibility to play by rules when our enemies blatantly violate those rules shows how naive and dangerous liberals have become.
    Don't be silly. No one has said anyone has the same beliefs and values. But our actions are not about them. Our actions are ours. We are responsible for what we do. That's called personal responsibility.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The liberals do not care how much damage is done to the United States as long as they can spin the issue and con the public that they're a solution not the problem.
    What a load of BS!

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Don't be silly. No one has said anyone has the same beliefs and values. But our actions are not about them. Our actions are ours. We are responsible for what we do. That's called personal responsibility.
    this is a war, Boo, and one of the sides believes it is the ultimate award to go to Allah by killing infidels. they cut off heads, strap bombs on their backs murdering innocent women and children, represent no country, aren't U.S. Citizens and you want to give them U.S. Constitutional rights because it is about personal responsibility?

    As stated, I am glad you aren't defending my family. What if your loved one was sitting on that plane, or working in the Twin Towers, or simply in a market place and never came home because one of these animals blew that loved one up?

    Noticed that you ignored Bin Laden's comments about the Caliphate and Iraq being the central front. Guess he didn't have as big of a problem with Saddam Hussein as you said.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by ScummyD View Post
    What a load of BS!
    What a giant of an answer and he is correct about liberals being a problem.

    But, ain't it great you can respond like that and not have an Atticus flying in to infrac you off the site?
    Last edited by Charles Martel; 01-04-10 at 10:53 PM.
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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    this is a war, Boo, and one of the sides believes it is the ultimate award to go to Allah by killing infidels. they cut off heads, strap bombs on their backs murdering innocent women and children, represent no country, aren't U.S. Citizens and you want to give them U.S. Constitutional rights because it is about personal responsibility?

    As stated, I am glad you aren't defending my family. What if your loved one was sitting on that plane, or working in the Twin Towers, or simply in a market place and never came home because one of these animals blew that loved one up?

    Noticed that you ignored Bin Laden's comments about the Caliphate and Iraq being the central front. Guess he didn't have as big of a problem with Saddam Hussein as you said.
    And doing all of that, they can't defeat us. Can't come close to defeating us. So, why the hyperbolic over reaction to it.

    Again, this part isn't about them. A cockroach is not something that should be imitated or admired. We can be better, more true to who we are, obey our laws, and still not lose to a cockroach.

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    Re: Obama considering military strikes after Christmas Day aircraft plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    What a giant of an answer
    There is no need for anything of greater length. His comment was absurd.

    and he is correct about liberals being a problem.
    I don't disagree.

    But, ain't it great you can respond like that and not have an Atticus flying in to infrac you off the site?
    No, that's not something I would describe as great. And you don't have any clue what you are talking about as Atticus would not do anything about my calling a person out on their blatant BS.
    Last edited by ScummyD; 01-04-10 at 11:00 PM.

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