That's called "fraud", if you're honest. I'm honest, I call it fraud. You refuse to call it fraud. Explain.
Bush got more votes in Floriduh.
End of story.
You can't deal with the facts, so you follow liberal rule #1 and lie your ass off about this.
The Tenth Amendment trumps "general welfare".
Don't like it? Move to a country that isn't based on the concept of limited government, you have no place in mine.
Does it matter (I misunderstood your reference, my error)? Again, it has little to do with today. Or 2003. Or my argument. In the end he wants us out of there, but to do that he must hurt us. He can't any other way. He needs us closer, as other attacks won't accomplish anything.He doesn't mention Iran. His rage clearly over Iraq, he mentions it several times. You are still in error even though it's a new year.
Again, a plan B. Not his desired plan, but he was left with little else at the time, so it was a Christmas gift. And he clearly benefited. Our own CIA declared Al Qaeda was as strong as ever. He could use Iraqis, and recruit those with no prior terrorist history, and not invest heavily in Iraq at all, and still have us bleed.Not disputing this. The fact is, we invaded Iraq and Osama Bin Laden clearly didn't want us anywhere near Iraq, considered it immoral. This idea is wa s Xmas gift is a guess by Scheuer and yourself and it's a wrong guess. Supposition and guesses were always your process, JD, I could read you like a book and I obviously still can.
Again, his original plan was to have us in Afghanistan. Iraq was the only option he had left at the time, and it was a gift. SO, your quote doesn't really address that. It may be something he didn't want, but it was better than the alternative.Seems to be reasonbable isn't proof, the fatwa I linked to solid proof. Osama didn't want us in Iraq and attacked us because of it. He chortled on about the decimation and destruction. His concerns were for our presence in the ME and especially Iraq and I quote:
And that is what Bush wanted to do with Iraq, I believe. But again, talk aside, Al Qaeda has invested very little in Iraq. They didn't have to. And OBL's goals were met there.See that...ferocious war...devastation...fragmentation? He didn't want us anywhere near IRaq and considered it "using the Peninsula as a staging post."
It's all right there in black and white, JD.
What justification is required for a democratic republic to intervene and removed a gangster strongman from a position of supreme leadership of a country with significant military potential?
Answer the question.
Explain what our advantages were at the time. Don't pretend we're as ignorant as the anti-war anti-American socialists you hang out with.