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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    I wouldn’t have a problem with profiling in addition to the scanners, anyone that has a fully loaded adult diaper and wearing Arab headgear gets the full check…..by the TSA checker with the least seniority.
    Would that headgear be a shemagh, or a fez, or perhaps a kufi? How about a baseball cap? What if he (or she) isn't an arab?
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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Lighten up will ya... it rhymes.

    Let's say it's a response for not allowing us to use his real name on this site.

    How lame is that?
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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Would that headgear be a shemagh, or a fez, or perhaps a kufi? How about a baseball cap? What if he (or she) isn't an arab?
    I guess I would have to get by with profiling the people that came across with the loaded adult diaper, via the scanner then.
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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Lighten up will ya... it rhymes.

    Let's say it's a response for not allowing us to use his real name on this site.

    How lame is that?
    Cannot use the full real name of someone who has in the past used his full real name?

    Chew on that a while.

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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    This is just pathetic. I could call you the dicksuckoo from Timbuktu and it would make about as much sense and add as much to the debate.
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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Just a few minutes with google would have solved this mystery:

    Detroit terror attack: delay over airport X-ray scanners 'risking lives' - Telegraph



    BBC News - Dutch press EU to adopt passenger scanners



    It's not the US that is preventing implementation in Europe - it's the EU.
    Now we have to add a supranational orgnization to the No-Fly List.

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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    The EU was not blocking it, as anyone who read the link would know. The EU is being pressed to make it mandatory, instead of the current voluntary position, despite some particularly shy individuals' worries. (and American objections.)
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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The EU was not blocking it, as anyone who read the link would know. The EU is being pressed to make it mandatory, instead of the current voluntary position, despite some particularly shy individuals' worries. (and American objections.)
    The Airport security is waiting for the EU consensus on the full body scanners that the EU has set for next week, and that is the cause for the delay.
    Pure European-Union-styled bureaucracy.

    Lord Adonis, the Transport Secretary, is the man responsible for introducing scanners. The Department for Transport has claimed it cannot introduce full body scanners without first getting EU approval, and said the European Commission is meeting next week to discuss the issue with member states.

    But the Tories and Lib Dems argued that EU approval is not needed where national security is an issue.

    Theresa Villiers, the Conservatives’ transport spokesman, said: “If the DfT has been caught napping on getting EU approval for trialling full body scanners, then they will have serious questions answer when Parliament returns in a few days' time.

    "EU bureaucracy should not be allowed to slow down our efforts to fully consider all the options when it comes to improving security at UK airports.”
    Detroit terror attack: delay over airport X-ray scanners 'risking lives' - Telegraph
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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    They say 2008. Not precisely when, but... once Obi from Nairobi took his oath, Obi's administration could have changed the policy.

    So... why did Obi from Nairobi not do anything?
    Because the President of the United States is Barack Obama. Obi from Nairobi can't even vote.

    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: US 'stopped Dutch installation of full body scanners

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The Airport security is waiting for the EU consensus on the full body scanners that the EU has set for next week, and that is the cause for the delay.

    Pure European-Union-styled bureaucracy.
    So wrong on so many levels. The objections about these scanners has been both locally and pan-European because of the privacy issues.. ironically the same issues that have stopped the implementation of the scanners in all US airports. The Tories and Lib Dems are just using this as an excuse to yet again attack the government and EU, when they know fully well that they too would have "delayed" the implementation because of the issue of privacy. It is ironic that they are now calling for the implementation of these scanners, and yet for the last 5+ years have not utter a word about it.. Why not push for the scanners after the London tube bombings? Or after 9/11? The technology is not "new" after all. Because there was serious and still are serious privacy issues. The Tories and Lib Dems are playing politics as usual.

    In fact the "EU Bureaucracy" has been advocating moving along with the scanners along with the parliament, but the objections and delaying tactics of the member states has slowed down any implementation.. because of the privacy fears.

    Source is highly biased and has many of its facts wrong, which has already been shown in this thread. Not to mention it would still have not stopped the crotch bomber.

    For one, the article mentions nothing on why the scanners were not in place for US bound flights.. because the American's objected to it being used only for US flights.. due to.. privacy fears.

    Also it fails to mention the little fact that other than the approval required by local government and the EU, there is an issue with that the airports in question in the UK are privately owned and it is them that have to bear the cost of the 100+k per scanner investment.

    It is a typical anti-EU anti-Europe anti-establishment article by the Telegraph and should be taken in that context.
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