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    Obama orders creation of declassification center

    President Obama created by executive order Tuesday a National Declassification Center to oversee efforts to make once-secret government documents public.

    The order comes as part of Obama's promise to push government to err on the side of disclosure as it tackles the need to keep certain information from the public.
    On the surface, this might appear to be a refreshing development. When Bush was president, I bashed the crap out of him for the secrecy of his administration. But I believe there is a problem with any president, Democratic or Republican, in charge of declassification of documents:

    1) The president could selectively decide what to release, and keep secret information that could embarrass him or his administration, as Bush did.

    2) the president could selectively release information that would damage his political enemies.

    These 2 reasons are enough to demand that the president obey Congress, when they demand information as part of an investigation. It is the law, as written into the US Constitution. Of course, Bush didn't, and you can bet the farm that Obama won't either. Why? Because Congress just doesn't have the balls to force the president to do it.

    In the end, the problem isn't one that that needs a new law or executive order. It is one where a law is already on the books. You all know how critical I was of Bush for flaunting the Constitution. Well, I will state unequivocally, right here and now, that what I said about Bush also applies to Obama. If he ignores Congressional demands for data, he will be committing a criminal act. Now all that remains to be seen is if Congress will make future demands, especially in the unlikely event that the GOP takes back Congress in 2010, and what Obama's response to those demands, if any, will be. If he does the same thing Bush did, under those same circumstances, I will be calling for his head on a platter. And let's also see if Republicans are the only partisan douche bags out there, or if the Democrats do the same damn thing, and support presidential lawbreaking.

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    Re: Obama orders creation of declassification center

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...en-public.html

    Overall it's a good thing, but it is going to slow down the release of the current set, some of which is going to be fascinating.
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    Next Obama will set up a direct line to Osama and the rest our enemies and tell them all of our plans. He is doing everything he can to help the bad guys and uses double speak in his appeasement talks.

    Obama claims openness then he and his disciples hold more secret meeting than Bush did. The only openness coming from this imbecile is aimed at hurting our Nation in favor of his Muslim pals.

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    Re: Obama orders creation of declassification center

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    On the surface, this might appear to be a refreshing development. When Bush was president, I bashed the crap out of him for the secrecy of his administration. But I believe there is a problem with any president, Democratic or Republican, in charge of declassification of documents:

    1) The president could selectively decide what to release, and keep secret information that could embarrass him or his administration, as Bush did.

    2) the president could selectively release information that would damage his political enemies.

    These 2 reasons are enough to demand that the president obey Congress, when they demand information as part of an investigation. It is the law, as written into the US Constitution. Of course, Bush didn't, and you can bet the farm that Obama won't either. Why? Because Congress just doesn't have the balls to force the president to do it.

    In the end, the problem isn't one that that needs a new law or executive order. It is one where a law is already on the books. You all know how critical I was of Bush for flaunting the Constitution. Well, I will state unequivocally, right here and now, that what I said about Bush also applies to Obama. If he ignores Congressional demands for data, he will be committing a criminal act. Now all that remains to be seen is if Congress will make future demands, especially in the unlikely event that the GOP takes back Congress in 2010, and what Obama's response to those demands, if any, will be. If he does the same thing Bush did, under those same circumstances, I will be calling for his head on a platter. And let's also see if Republicans are the only partisan douche bags out there, or if the Democrats do the same damn thing, and support presidential lawbreaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Next Obama will set up a direct line to Osama and the rest our enemies and tell them all of our plans. He is doing everything he can to help the bad guys and uses double speak in his appeasement talks.

    Obama claims openness then he and his disciples hold more secret meeting than Bush did. The only openness coming from this imbecile is aimed at hurting our Nation in favor of his Muslim pals.
    Aw are you afraid that someone will be exposed in the Bush administration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    On the surface, this might appear to be a refreshing development. When Bush was president, I bashed the crap out of him for the secrecy of his administration. But I believe there is a problem with any president, Democratic or Republican, in charge of declassification of documents:

    1) The president could selectively decide what to release, and keep secret information that could embarrass him or his administration, as Bush did.

    2) the president could selectively release information that would damage his political enemies.

    These 2 reasons are enough to demand that the president obey Congress, when they demand information as part of an investigation. It is the law, as written into the US Constitution. Of course, Bush didn't, and you can bet the farm that Obama won't either. Why? Because Congress just doesn't have the balls to force the president to do it.

    In the end, the problem isn't one that that needs a new law or executive order. It is one where a law is already on the books. You all know how critical I was of Bush for flaunting the Constitution. Well, I will state unequivocally, right here and now, that what I said about Bush also applies to Obama. If he ignores Congressional demands for data, he will be committing a criminal act. Now all that remains to be seen is if Congress will make future demands, especially in the unlikely event that the GOP takes back Congress in 2010, and what Obama's response to those demands, if any, will be. If he does the same thing Bush did, under those same circumstances, I will be calling for his head on a platter. And let's also see if Republicans are the only partisan douche bags out there, or if the Democrats do the same damn thing, and support presidential lawbreaking.

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    Article is here.
    No government regardless of where in the world, should have too many secrets. Transparency and accountability are key for a free society. And I agree, Congress under Bush was far far far too wussy to stand up against Bush on this.. well Cheney more likely. And congress should stand up against Obama and demand that he follow the law, I agree fully. Then again so should Congress

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    Re: Obama orders creation of declassification center

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Aw are you afraid that someone will be exposed in the Bush administration?
    This is a pretty disingenuous question.
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    Re: Obama orders creation of declassification center

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You still do, and I'm waiting for the Obama bashing to begin.
    You know, your lies with the one liners are getting old and stale. Take your BS someplace else.

    Hey folks. Unlike American, you have read what I have posted. Have I or have I not bashed the living crap out of Obama?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, your lies with the one liners are getting old and stale. Take your BS someplace else.

    Hey folks. Unlike American, you have read what I have posted. Have I or have I not bashed the living crap out of Obama?
    You'll be bashing Bush long after he's dead, which would make your feign criticism of the One, miniscule.
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