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Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

What gave me a chuckle is this one:



I wonder if this guy knows who gets elected and how they get elected? The MAJORITY of voting Americans elected him.

But, on the other hand, we HAVE had presidents in the recent past that were put in office without the majority vote going their way. But that's an exception rather than the rule. But I think in Obama's case, this doesn't hold true. :roll: The Majority of Americans, right or wrong, support Obama. I wonder which America he is referring to? SOUTH America? :confused:

I haven't told Democrats how to run their party, or who to follow with or in their party.
The only place I do that is in the pigsty called Democratic Underground. :mrgreen:

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Okay.

Rush said drug users should be put in jail.

I don't agree, but so? Your point is?

My point is.....his feelings changed when he himself became a drug abuser....or at least his feelings as the law applied to him.

The way his apologists try to rationalize his drug addiction furthers the hypocrisy in their position.
 
So you think people who are breaking the law should not pay?

Did Rush go to court and pay? Were his medical records opened?


That could be pages of debate here. Suffice it to say, I don't think anyone should go to prison or jail or simple drug possession.

Rush got the same deal that any first time arrested addict gets, drug diversion. I have no problem with the penalty he got. I think it was appropriate.

What I am simply pointing out is that just like many things in life...those who shout the loudest suddenly become quiet when the things that they are shouting about are shown to be their own downfall.

Is Rush the first hypocrite in the world? Hardly. But nevertheless, Rush and his rationalizers are still hypocrites.
 
That could be pages of debate here. Suffice it to say, I don't think anyone should go to prison or jail or simple drug possession.

Rush got the same deal that any first time arrested addict gets, drug diversion. I have no problem with the penalty he got. I think it was appropriate.

What I am simply pointing out is that just like many things in life...those who shout the loudest suddenly become quiet when the things that they are shouting about are shown to be their own downfall.

Is Rush the first hypocrite in the world? Hardly. But nevertheless, Rush and his rationalizers are still hypocrites.


Thats not true he was sought after in a way no regular drug addict would have been.

I know about the law I have a family member on probation for possession of Oxycontin she is now in jail for driving after going for her methadone treatment. You have to take at the place but can not drive on it kind of a catch 22.
 
As much as I disagree with Rush's political views I do wish him a speedy recovery. ...and so he can get back to his spewing out our endless supply of worthy debate material. :roll:
 
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Its a world of difference to get addicted to drugs by going out on the street and buying them rather then getting addicted using prescription drugs for excruciating pain.............even you can see that.......maybe not.........:roll:

So you are on the same level as Rush and think that being a crack addict is bad but popping pills is OK?

There is a very slippery slope here you are taking as addiction is addiction.
 
This thread is not about Obama. :roll:
You've correctly identified one off-topic post in this thread (which is about Rush being taken to a hospital with chest pains), now why not start on the other 450, starting with the one you just posted?

:lol::roll:
 
So you are on the same level as Rush and think that being a crack addict is bad but popping pills is OK?

There is a very slippery slope here you are taking as addiction is addiction.
Show me your source that confirms that Rush said it's okay to be a pill popper. As far as I know he went through a lot of rehab, once for a couple weeks, which to me says it's not okay. But if you have something more, I'm all ears.
 
My point is.....his feelings changed when he himself became a drug abuser....or at least his feelings as the law applied to him.

The way his apologists try to rationalize his drug addiction furthers the hypocrisy in their position.



No, what you have here is really little more than a man that had a failing in his life, and instead of recognizing that he addressed that and rehabilitated from his addiction, and manages to stay on top of his daily struggle, you (and other liberals that like to hide behind the "moderate" or "Independent" tag, talk about hypocrisy) want to use this failing to bludgeon him, in the hopes of forcing anyone you disagree with to shut up. And you do it sticking right to script.

"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'...

taken from Rules for Radicals

By Saul Alinsky - 1971


Isn't there something more creative that you libs, and faux libs can come up with other that some 35+ year old play book?

Let's face it. You have nothing to respond with to what Limbaugh says about the demo party in general, so you attack him, and anyone who may listen, or defend him. All the while living in that glass house with your own vile commentators that have a myriad of problems themselves. What a joke.


j-mac
 
Please show where he said this.

Pay attention! I didn't say he said it. I said it. Understand?

He did say: "I hope obama fails". If our president fails, then the whole country fails. He is, after all, our commander in chief. :shock:

I don't understand how some wing nuts are so unamerican and unpatriotic. It only encourages and emboldens our enemies.:(
 
Pay attention! I didn't say he said it. I said it. Understand?

He did say: "I hope obama fails". If our president fails, then the whole country fails. He is, after all, our commander in chief. :shock:

I don't understand how some wing nuts are so unamerican and unpatriotic. It only encourages and emboldens our enemies.:(
So you are saying that right wingers are unamerican and unpatriotic? And furthermore, you are saying that Rush wants Obama to fail without attention to context?

Rush said that he wants Obama's liberal/socialist agenda to fail, and if people want that to mean that Rush wants Obama to fail, then yes Rush wants Obama to fail.

But you go ahead and take that out of context and run with it, because you will be defeated in any debate.
 
So you are saying that right wingers are unamerican and unpatriotic? And furthermore, you are saying that Rush wants Obama to fail without attention to context?

Rush said that he wants Obama's liberal/socialist agenda to fail, and if people want that to mean that Rush wants Obama to fail, then yes Rush wants Obama to fail.

But you go ahead and take that out of context and run with it, because you will be defeated in any debate.

The most costly and expensive social programs in american history have benefited the super rich and corporate interests more than the average peasant.
The republicans have been robbing our treasury since Reagan and giving it to the rich.

Actually, we have been borrowing from the communist chinese to pay for the continuation of the Crusades and to provide corporate welfare.

During the second world war we sold war bonds and paid higer taxes to finance the war. Borrowing money from communists to fight a war with is just plain stupid and dangerous to our republic democracy.

Get real!
 
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Pay attention! I didn't say he said it. I said it. Understand?

He did say: "I hope obama fails". If our president fails, then the whole country fails. He is, after all, our commander in chief. :shock:

I don't understand how some wing nuts are so unamerican and unpatriotic. It only encourages and emboldens our enemies.:(

I don't understand how some people can't seem to understand the meaning of the word "context" or can't actually look at a situation objectively while idiotically and pathetically attempting to call people "unamerican".

Wanting the President to fail, especially in the context of his POLICIES, is NOT wanting the country to fail. Its not close to the same thing. If a President came into power whose policy goals were to abolish the 1st amendment, place cameras in every persons homes, and pass legislation to make him dictator and you went "I hope he fails" does that suddenly mean you hope the COUNTRY fails?

Or, as I asked previously and you ignored...

And then you move onto the tired, pathetic liberal cliche of "he hopes the country fails" which is patently false and sadly predictable because god forbid you actually quote what he said...and TRULY god forbid you actually give CONTEXT to what he said...because then you'd just look foolish to anyone reading it when you tried to use it as an insult. Now you just look foolish to those that already know the quote and the context that you so poorly attempted to gloss over. He felt that the policies and positions of Obama were harmful and dangerous to this country and would do it HARM, and therefore because of that he hoped that Obama fails.

If Obama told you "I am going to shoot you in the head" and you say "Well Mr. President, I hope you fail", does that mean you hope the country fails, or does it mean you hope the action he's going to take that you believe is going to severely harm you fails? If I tell you that as the new president your company I hope to outsource all the jobs overseas to reduce costs and use my lawyers to back out of all the pension plans and you go "Well Sir, I hope you fail" does that mean you're hoping that the company you work for fails, or is that meaning you hope that the plans I have for said company that you believe will be harmful to the company and to yourself fails?

Then how exactly is Rush, who believes that if Obama succeeds with his policies that THAT will be harmful to this country and hurt it, saying that he wants the COUNTRY to fail by saying that he wants Obama to fail?


So I'll ask you point blank.

If a President was elected and his stated policy goals was revoking the 1st amendment, 24/7 survelliance by the government in our homes, abolishment of abortion, establishing christianity as the state religion, and making himself dictator for life....would you hope he fails or would you hope he succeeds?

And if you hope he fails, would it mean you hope the United States of America fails?
 
I don't understand how some people can't seem to understand the meaning of the word "context" or can't actually look at a situation objectively while idiotically and pathetically attempting to call people "unamerican".

Wanting the President to fail, especially in the context of his POLICIES, is NOT wanting the country to fail. Its not close to the same thing. If a President came into power whose policy goals were to abolish the 1st amendment, place cameras in every persons homes, and pass legislation to make him dictator and you went "I hope he fails" does that suddenly mean you hope the COUNTRY fails?

Or, as I asked previously and you ignored...




So I'll ask you point blank.

If a President was elected and his stated policy goals was revoking the 1st amendment, 24/7 survelliance by the government in our homes, abolishment of abortion, establishing christianity as the state religion, and making himself dictator for life....would you hope he fails or would you hope he succeeds?

And if you hope he fails, would it mean you hope the United States of America fails?

No, I would leave the country and come back to vote against him in the next election. My country, right or wrong.
 
The most costly and expensive social programs in american history have benefited the super rich and corporate interests more than the average peasant.
The republicans have been robbing our treasury since Reagan and giving it to the rich.


:rofl No, I think that the War on Poverty dwarfs any Corporate welfare.


Actually, we have been borrowing from the communist chinese to pay for the continuation of the Crusades and to provide corporate welfare.


Crusades? Hmmm....Have you ever read the history of the Crusades? Wouldn't we have to be the attackers that started this, and be holding lands, and stealing invaded countries wealth, and postalizing to fit that mold? Man, drop the DailyKOS rhetoric will you?


During the second world war we sold war bonds and paid higer taxes to finance the war. Borrowing money from communists to fight a war with is just plain stupid and dangerous to our republic democracy.


Why is it that when comparing WWII to this conflict with radical terrorism, liberals will automatically dismiss any comparison what so ever, but when it is to their advantage they whip it out quickly?

Look, I'll agree that borrowing money to fund this war is the wrong way to go. But didn't Obama say he was going to stop that? Has he?


j-mac
 
... Have you ever read the history of the Crusades? Wouldn't we have to be the attackers that started this, and be holding lands, and stealing invaded countries wealth, ... ?
j-mac


Give the man a coconut! :rofl
 
No, I would leave the country and come back to vote against him in the next election. My country, right or wrong.


:2rofll: yeah right! You'd leave.....Tell us why it is that liberals got so bent out of shape then when Bush was in, and the argument was that if you didn't like it you could leave? Did you? Or did you just sit there at your keyboard and bitch like the rest of them, in feigned outrage that anyone would dare to question your patriotism? Get outta here with that tripe. :bon_voyag


j-mac
 
No, I would leave the country and come back to vote against him in the next election. My country, right or wrong.

What a pathetic cop out.

First, apparently you didn't bother reading, note one of his policies was to create a dictatorship. There'd be no "next election"

Second, so you're telling me every single time you disagree with the majority of a Presidents policies you pick up and leave the country for 4 or 8 years rather than saying "I disagree with what he's doing and hope he doesn't succeed at them"?

I'm sorry, but I flat out don't believe that garbage. Celebrities who threaten this and have the financial potential to do it don't do it, I'm pretty sure joe average on a message board isn't doing it.

So you hope Obama succeeds at everything he does?

Did you hope Bush Succeed at everything he does?

is it okay to hope a President fails at "Some" things? Does that just mean you want "some" of America to fail?
 
The most costly and expensive social programs in american history have benefited the super rich and corporate interests more than the average peasant.
The republicans have been robbing our treasury since Reagan and giving it to the rich.

Actually, we have been borrowing from the communist chinese to pay for an u continuation of the Crusades and to provide corporate welfare.

During the second world war we sold war bonds and paid higer taxes to finance the war. Borrowing money from communists to fight a war with is just plain stupid and dangerous to our republic democracy.

Get real!
At least corporations produce something, unlike the welfare recipients your have supported for 40 years.

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I'm sorry, but I flat out don't believe that garbage. Celebrities who threaten this and have the financial potential to do it don't do it, I'm pretty sure joe average on a message board isn't doing it.

With dual citizenship and land of my own in Ireland I could do it fairly easily, but things would have to be totally ****ed up in order for me to actually do it.
 
Easily would still be a relative thing for some people. You'd still possibly need to leave your job, get a new job there. You'd need the money for transporting all your stuff if you plan on taking it. If you have a family ditto for uprooting all of them. And double it as you have to come back.
 
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