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    Re: Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you are saying that right wingers are unamerican and unpatriotic? And furthermore, you are saying that Rush wants Obama to fail without attention to context?

    Rush said that he wants Obama's liberal/socialist agenda to fail, and if people want that to mean that Rush wants Obama to fail, then yes Rush wants Obama to fail.

    But you go ahead and take that out of context and run with it, because you will be defeated in any debate.
    The most costly and expensive social programs in american history have benefited the super rich and corporate interests more than the average peasant.
    The republicans have been robbing our treasury since Reagan and giving it to the rich.

    Actually, we have been borrowing from the communist chinese to pay for the continuation of the Crusades and to provide corporate welfare.

    During the second world war we sold war bonds and paid higer taxes to finance the war. Borrowing money from communists to fight a war with is just plain stupid and dangerous to our republic democracy.

    Get real!
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    Re: Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Pay attention! I didn't say he said it. I said it. Understand?

    He did say: "I hope obama fails". If our president fails, then the whole country fails. He is, after all, our commander in chief.

    I don't understand how some wing nuts are so unamerican and unpatriotic. It only encourages and emboldens our enemies.
    I don't understand how some people can't seem to understand the meaning of the word "context" or can't actually look at a situation objectively while idiotically and pathetically attempting to call people "unamerican".

    Wanting the President to fail, especially in the context of his POLICIES, is NOT wanting the country to fail. Its not close to the same thing. If a President came into power whose policy goals were to abolish the 1st amendment, place cameras in every persons homes, and pass legislation to make him dictator and you went "I hope he fails" does that suddenly mean you hope the COUNTRY fails?

    Or, as I asked previously and you ignored...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And then you move onto the tired, pathetic liberal cliche of "he hopes the country fails" which is patently false and sadly predictable because god forbid you actually quote what he said...and TRULY god forbid you actually give CONTEXT to what he said...because then you'd just look foolish to anyone reading it when you tried to use it as an insult. Now you just look foolish to those that already know the quote and the context that you so poorly attempted to gloss over. He felt that the policies and positions of Obama were harmful and dangerous to this country and would do it HARM, and therefore because of that he hoped that Obama fails.

    If Obama told you "I am going to shoot you in the head" and you say "Well Mr. President, I hope you fail", does that mean you hope the country fails, or does it mean you hope the action he's going to take that you believe is going to severely harm you fails? If I tell you that as the new president your company I hope to outsource all the jobs overseas to reduce costs and use my lawyers to back out of all the pension plans and you go "Well Sir, I hope you fail" does that mean you're hoping that the company you work for fails, or is that meaning you hope that the plans I have for said company that you believe will be harmful to the company and to yourself fails?

    Then how exactly is Rush, who believes that if Obama succeeds with his policies that THAT will be harmful to this country and hurt it, saying that he wants the COUNTRY to fail by saying that he wants Obama to fail?

    So I'll ask you point blank.

    If a President was elected and his stated policy goals was revoking the 1st amendment, 24/7 survelliance by the government in our homes, abolishment of abortion, establishing christianity as the state religion, and making himself dictator for life....would you hope he fails or would you hope he succeeds?

    And if you hope he fails, would it mean you hope the United States of America fails?

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    Re: Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I don't understand how some people can't seem to understand the meaning of the word "context" or can't actually look at a situation objectively while idiotically and pathetically attempting to call people "unamerican".

    Wanting the President to fail, especially in the context of his POLICIES, is NOT wanting the country to fail. Its not close to the same thing. If a President came into power whose policy goals were to abolish the 1st amendment, place cameras in every persons homes, and pass legislation to make him dictator and you went "I hope he fails" does that suddenly mean you hope the COUNTRY fails?

    Or, as I asked previously and you ignored...




    So I'll ask you point blank.

    If a President was elected and his stated policy goals was revoking the 1st amendment, 24/7 survelliance by the government in our homes, abolishment of abortion, establishing christianity as the state religion, and making himself dictator for life....would you hope he fails or would you hope he succeeds?

    And if you hope he fails, would it mean you hope the United States of America fails?
    No, I would leave the country and come back to vote against him in the next election. My country, right or wrong.

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    Re: Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    The most costly and expensive social programs in american history have benefited the super rich and corporate interests more than the average peasant.
    The republicans have been robbing our treasury since Reagan and giving it to the rich.

    No, I think that the War on Poverty dwarfs any Corporate welfare.


    Actually, we have been borrowing from the communist chinese to pay for the continuation of the Crusades and to provide corporate welfare.

    Crusades? Hmmm....Have you ever read the history of the Crusades? Wouldn't we have to be the attackers that started this, and be holding lands, and stealing invaded countries wealth, and postalizing to fit that mold? Man, drop the DailyKOS rhetoric will you?


    During the second world war we sold war bonds and paid higer taxes to finance the war. Borrowing money from communists to fight a war with is just plain stupid and dangerous to our republic democracy.

    Why is it that when comparing WWII to this conflict with radical terrorism, liberals will automatically dismiss any comparison what so ever, but when it is to their advantage they whip it out quickly?

    Look, I'll agree that borrowing money to fund this war is the wrong way to go. But didn't Obama say he was going to stop that? Has he?


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    Re: Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    ... Have you ever read the history of the Crusades? Wouldn't we have to be the attackers that started this, and be holding lands, and stealing invaded countries wealth, ... ?
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    Re: Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    No, I would leave the country and come back to vote against him in the next election. My country, right or wrong.

    yeah right! You'd leave.....Tell us why it is that liberals got so bent out of shape then when Bush was in, and the argument was that if you didn't like it you could leave? Did you? Or did you just sit there at your keyboard and bitch like the rest of them, in feigned outrage that anyone would dare to question your patriotism? Get outta here with that tripe.


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    Re: Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    No, I would leave the country and come back to vote against him in the next election. My country, right or wrong.
    What a pathetic cop out.

    First, apparently you didn't bother reading, note one of his policies was to create a dictatorship. There'd be no "next election"

    Second, so you're telling me every single time you disagree with the majority of a Presidents policies you pick up and leave the country for 4 or 8 years rather than saying "I disagree with what he's doing and hope he doesn't succeed at them"?

    I'm sorry, but I flat out don't believe that garbage. Celebrities who threaten this and have the financial potential to do it don't do it, I'm pretty sure joe average on a message board isn't doing it.

    So you hope Obama succeeds at everything he does?

    Did you hope Bush Succeed at everything he does?

    is it okay to hope a President fails at "Some" things? Does that just mean you want "some" of America to fail?

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    Re: Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    The most costly and expensive social programs in american history have benefited the super rich and corporate interests more than the average peasant.
    The republicans have been robbing our treasury since Reagan and giving it to the rich.

    Actually, we have been borrowing from the communist chinese to pay for an u continuation of the Crusades and to provide corporate welfare.

    During the second world war we sold war bonds and paid higer taxes to finance the war. Borrowing money from communists to fight a war with is just plain stupid and dangerous to our republic democracy.

    Get real!
    At least corporations produce something, unlike the welfare recipients your have supported for 40 years.

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    Re: Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm sorry, but I flat out don't believe that garbage. Celebrities who threaten this and have the financial potential to do it don't do it, I'm pretty sure joe average on a message board isn't doing it.
    With dual citizenship and land of my own in Ireland I could do it fairly easily, but things would have to be totally ****ed up in order for me to actually do it.
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    Easily would still be a relative thing for some people. You'd still possibly need to leave your job, get a new job there. You'd need the money for transporting all your stuff if you plan on taking it. If you have a family ditto for uprooting all of them. And double it as you have to come back.

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