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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

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    And yet ... China wonders why the rest of the world dislikes them.
    And yet the rest of the world continues to buy their junk, thus funding the thugs who behave like this...
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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

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    nah, his wife should get it.
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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

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    Yes Bill Clinton appealed but we told him to eat more burgers.
    Weren't there a lot of Americans who AGREED with Singapore's punishment in that case. Still, flogging someone for vandalism is hardly comparable to executing a mentally ill man for committing a crime that would not result in death in a civilized country.
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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Weren't there a lot of Americans who AGREED with Singapore's punishment in that case. Still, flogging someone for vandalism is hardly comparable to executing a mentally ill man for committing a crime that would not result in death in a civilized country.
    That mentally ill? He is not a zombie or a dickhead. He still can think straight. He should have been hanged instead of lethal injection.

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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    That mentally ill? He is not a zombie or a dickhead. He still can think straight.

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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

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    That mentally ill? He is not a zombie or a dickhead. He still can think straight. He should have been hanged instead of lethal injection.
    We don't know how mentally ill he was. It would have been nice to get an expert assessment rather than a thirty-minute trial that clearly violates China's responsibilities under international law and covenents it has adhered to in the international community.
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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    We don't know how mentally ill he was. It would have been nice to get an expert assessment rather than a thirty-minute trial that clearly violates China's responsibilities under international law and covenents it has adhered to in the international community.
    Just don't mess with the communists.

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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

    The specific objection of the British government in this case, and the source of the outrage against China which will ultimately damage Britain's interests (in other words these are words that are said knowing that they will have a cost) is as follows:

    China executed a man, where there is significant prima facie evidence of that man having diminished responsibility due to his mental state, without a medical assessment by the Court.

    This was despite tewnty seven requests by the British government that a UK citizen be afforded such a process which constitutes a necessary part of a "fair trial" in the eyes of most international jurists.

    So it's not about whether capital punishment was right or wrong. It was nopt about whether bipolar disorder in this individual case led to diminsihed responsibility. And it is certainly not about the bloody Opium Wars.

    It is about the fact that China has failed to provide a British citizen with a fair trial before executing them. It is an utter disgrace that should unite all civilized people on this forum.

    On December 25th China sent a non violent dissident to jail for 11 years for expressing his opinion that China should introduce democratic reforms. The leadership of the CCP is engaging in policies that are "f you" to the international community, in order to aggrandize their nation and strut on the world stage with the big boys. The rights of individuals are being trampled on. Civilized countries should continue to harry and criticize China, en bloc, for these failures to live up to standards of basic human decency and their treaty obligations on human rights.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-11-years.html

    Some hope. The civilized countries are too riuddled with authoritarian troglodytes for that to happen. When China is top nation, which it will be, we will all regret that we did not engage China on these issues sooner. Only the success of reformists from within the CCP can give us hope in my opinion.
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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

    OK Ok get the UN to impose sanctions on China

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    Re: British man said to be mentally ill executed in China

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    OK Ok get the UN to impose sanctions on China
    The PRC has veto power. We ALL have the right to impose sanctions on China by limiting as much as possible our economic interactions with the country. I only purchase things made in China if I have no other reasonable alternative -- which actually, if you look hard enough, there are alternatives out there for almost anything... for example: none of the clothes I am wearing at this moment were made in China, my computer was made in Taiwan as was my monitor and most of the accessories on my computer were made in Malaysia...
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