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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    First...they would have to find lighter skinned Muslims who are willing to throw their lives away and commit suicide for a fantastical belief of reward. And since the vast majority of all suicide bombers look absolutely like Arabs, Al-Queda's job would be far than "extremely easy." The point is to make it harder than easier and throwing out the red carpet to all obvious Arabs so that we can pretend to be "better than them" is plain stupid.

    If they don't like it, then we can direct them towards their own heritage and culture. And if they don't like this then they can be directed to deal with it within their culture rather than getting angry at those that are merely trying to keep their own alive.

    Of course, that's just the Jarhead in me looking after my own. My own seem to rather be destroyed these days than to "look bad."
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    I'm more than sure he is not stating that. He is stating that we can't assume that all who look Arab are guilty. However, I believe that hurting the feelings of all Arabs is worth the effort to catch those Arabs who are guilty.

    We aren't talking about crime. We are talking about warfare. And like I stated...if they don't like it, then they can certainly take matters into their own hands and deal with their cultural failures and save us the trouble.

    I never said that Arab/Arab looking persons are guilty, either. Only that people who fit a certain profile should be scrutinized moreso than others.

    If it hurts someone's feelings and at the same time saves someone's life, then it's worth it.

    However, doing nothing because of some fairy tail about AQ using white boys on the next attack is the wrong answer.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    You do realize the United Kingdom, Pakistan, and Jamaica isn't Arab... right?
    You do reaize that all but one of these dudes has an Arab name and are of Arab decent...right?
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    You do realize the United Kingdom, Pakistan, and Jamaica isn't Arab... right?
    I think the difficulty in communication is due to the fact that he's conflating "arab," "middle eastern," "islamic," and "terroristy-looking."
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You do reaize that all but one of these dudes has an Arab name and are of Arab decent...right?
    Doesn't make them Arabic. you're still wrong.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think the difficulty in communication is due to the fact that he's conflating "arab," "middle eastern," "islamic," and "terroristy-looking."
    I don't think that's it at all. I think it has more to do with people assuming they know what I mean and turning up sadly mistaken. I see a certain pattern, but whatever.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Point out where I said these guys are Nigerian, or that this is what Nigerians look like. Thank you.
    Your inability to extrapolate is really ridiculous. You stated you'd want a system where we look for people who look like terrorists. Then provided a picture to show us the type of people we should be looking for. If your system relies on visual aids and cues to look for terrorists, it is clearly a failure. The terrorist on this plane was a black guy. I will bet you that if on that plane there were 200 people 170 were black. How do you tell which one is a Muslim that way? You can't.

    Even if we were just looking for Arabs, if your system is reliant on looking for Arabs how does that work for flights coming from Arab countries? Obviously your 'brilliant' system doesn't take that sort of situation into account. Only somebody who thinks Muslims terrorists run into planes screaming "ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH!" would think such a system is a good idea.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Doesn't make them Arabic. you're still wrong.
    LOL...oh really? Now, you're just arguing to argue.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think the difficulty in communication is due to the fact that he's conflating "arab," "middle eastern," "islamic," and "terroristy-looking."
    Yeah. It's a bit pathetic. You know, not being able to discern the differences.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your inability to extrapolate is really ridiculous. You stated you'd want a system where we look for people who look like terrorists. Then provided a picture to show us the type of people we should be looking for. If your system relies on visual aids and cues to look for terrorists, it is clearly a failure. The terrorist on this plane was a black guy. I will bet you that if on that plane there were 200 people 170 were black. How do you tell which one is a Muslim that way? You can't.

    Even if we were just looking for Arabs, if your system is reliant on looking for Arabs how does that work for flights coming from Arab countries? Obviously your 'brilliant' system doesn't take that sort of situation into account. Only somebody who thinks Muslims terrorists run into planes screaming "ALLAH ALLAH ALLAH!" would think such a system is a good idea.
    Show me where I said that. Thank you.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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