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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    A: "There's been a lot of burglaries lately. We should install bombs on the door of every house so that if people try to enter after 11pm, it blows up the house."

    B: "I don't think that's a very good idea."

    A: "LOL you'd rather do nothing??? Omg your so dumb. You're probably a burglar-sympathizer"
    Now, you're just being obtuse to camoflauge your error. What's next? Gonne pick on me because I spelled camoflauge wrong?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You are very wrong on the London and Mumbai attacks, sir.
    Haha, really?

    Let me see your sources
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, well, you're another one that believes that doing nothing is the answer? How stupid is that?
    I'm more than sure he is not stating that. He is stating that we can't assume that all who look Arab are guilty. However, I believe that hurting the feelings of all Arabs is worth the effort to catch those Arabs who are guilty.

    We aren't talking about crime. We are talking about warfare. And like I stated...if they don't like it, then they can certainly take matters into their own hands and deal with their cultural failures and save us the trouble.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Now, you're just being obtuse to camoflauge your error. What's next? Gonne pick on me because I spelled camoflauge wrong?
    I'll settle for pointing out your gaping logical flaws.


    Quote Originally Posted by congrats on the promotion btw, just figured it out
    I'm more than sure he is not stating that. He is stating that we can't assume that all who look Arab are guilty. However, I believe that hurting the feelings of all Arabs is worth the effort to catch those Arabs who are guilty.

    We aren't talking about crime. We are talking about warfare. And like I stated...if they don't like it, then they can certainly take matters into their own hands and deal with their cultural failures.
    See, this is a logically defensible position. I just happen to disagree because I think that the additional costs would outweigh the incremental benefit that we would receive, because so many of these terrorist actions can be committed without going through a checkpoint and because it would be near-impossible to distinguish between suspect classes and non-suspect classes.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What about guys that look this? Think it would have made a difference if these dudes never got on a commercial aircraft?

    Nigerians don't look like that. Aren't you black? You're supposed to know what black people look like.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Haha, really?

    Let me see your sources
    Oh, damn, my pleasure, bro!

    Mohammad Sidique Khan (30) - Edgware Road Tube 8:50 a.m. Lived in Dewsbury with his wife and young child. (Hasina Patel miscarried August 2005).
    Shehzad Tanweer (22) - Aldgate Tube 8:50 a.m. Lived in Leeds with his mother and father working in a fish-and-chip shop.
    Germaine Lindsay (19) - Russell Square 8:50 a.m. Lived in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire with his pregnant wife.
    Hasib Hussain (18) - Tavistock Square 9:47 a.m. Lived in Leeds with his brother Imran and sister-in-law Shazia.

    7 July 2005 London bombings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    On December 9, the ten attackers were identified by Mumbai police, along with their home towns in Pakistan: Ajmal Amir from Faridkot, Abu Ismail Dera Ismail Khan from Dera Ismail Khan, Hafiz Arshad and Babr Imran from Multan, Javed from Okara, Shoaib from Narowal, Nazih and Nasr from Faisalabad, Abdul Rahman from Arifwalla, and Fahad Ullah from Dipalpur Taluka. Dera Ismail Khan is in the North-West Frontier Province; the rest of the towns are in Pakistani Punjab.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mu...acks#Attackers
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nigerians don't look like that. Aren't you black? You're supposed to know what black people look like.
    Point out where I said these guys are Nigerian, or that this is what Nigerians look like. Thank you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Al Qa'ida is no longer a cancerous tumor on the side of Afghanistan and Pakistan. It can affect any and everyone. To expect that the Al-Qa'ida influenced lone-wolf (which is probably what this guy is) is going to be wearing a long beard, with his hijab dressing in accordance with Wahab Islam is to underestimate the enemy.

    7 July London Attacks had no Arabs (British, Pakistani, and Jamaican)

    26-29 November Mumbai Attacks had no Arabs (Pakistani; Leshkar-I-Taliba0

    2004 Russian Terrorist Attack was not the work of Arabs.
    1) I am very well aware of what is going on in the Afghani/Pakistani border.

    2) Who said anything about long beards and hijabs? An Arab is an Arab. I can tell the difference between an Arab, a Pakistani, an Indian, and a Persian. Of course, nobody can be 100%, but it is absolutely possible to be accurate enough to catch the obvious. It's not hard.

    I'll put it to you another way... Prior to 9/11 the military was constantly targetted by Sunni Arab (or Sunni loyalists) terrorists. Al-Queda was not a foreign word to us and Bin Laden was known. If we had it our way, all Arab looking personell would have been pulled aside long before 9/11 as a possible danger. After 9/11, people, who wish the world to reflect their dreams of marshmellows and daisies, still pretend that we are "better then they" at the expense of more American lives. America hasn't survived and become the most powerful nation in history because of European emotions.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You are very wrong on the London and Mumbai attacks, sir.

    For Mumbai

    It was the first time the Indian police disclosed the larger number of recruits, all of whom belonged to the Pakistani militant organization Lashkar-e-Taiba. The police said there was no reason to believe that the other 20 were in India, but expressed concern about that possibility.
    --------
    The authorities had already identified two of the gunmen: Mr. Kasab, from the village of Faridkot, Pakistan, and Ismail Khan, from Dera Ismail Khan, Pakistan.

    The eight remaining gunmen were identified by the police, sometimes only by first names and with varying degrees of location of their origins in Pakistan. The eight were listed as Hafiz Arshad from Multan; Javed from Okara; Shoaib from Narowal; Nazih from Faisalbad; Nasr from Faisalbad; Babr Imran from Multan; Abdul Rahman from Arifwalla; and Fahad Ullah from Dipalpur Taluka.

    For London Attacks

    Mohammad Sidique Khan -- West Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
    Shehzad Tanweer--- West Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
    Abdullah Shaheed Jamal --- Jamaica
    Hasib Hussain -- London
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, damn, my pleasure, bro!




    You do realize the United Kingdom, Pakistan, and Jamaica isn't Arab... right?
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

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