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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    the smoking gun, awareness of which rather ominiously underlay all the sunday talks:

    correspondences by awlaki foretelling a nigerian man on christmas, a bomb in his underwear

    the cia, fbi and dhs were each briefed about briefs, says richard ben veniste, dem member of 9-11 commission, on cnn's state of the union

    had our intel's done their jobs after fort hood and scrubbed hasan's guru, they'd have surely found the lead

    instead, the administration characteristically worked to spin hasan in his most innocent, ie, "isolated" light

    nothing will come of this rocking revelation, likely

    but everyone saw it
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    the administration is working hard this morning to refute cheney's accusation that obama wants to "pretend" we're not at war

    mr brennan talks about afghanistan, a strike against yemen

    but he still can't bring himself to utter the t-word

    how can you conduct a war without first acknowledging and recognizing your enemy?

    who wages wars vs isolated extremists?

    forced by uncooperative circumstance, media allies of the white house were compelled this morning to talk "terror"

    it must've left a bad taste in their mouths

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Antagony View Post
    Your comment reminded me of this picture:



    Okay, it's an amusing generalisation based on perceived American ignorance of world geography, but that simplistic crude view--or something akin to it--does often seem to be prevalent when one sees the comments of certain right wing Americans.

    Great set of posts by the way, Plato.
    And your picture reminded me of this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And your picture reminded me of this one

    Actually, the picture does not include Africa because Americans tend to ignore Africa, even when there are Genocides and Wars being waged there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Actually, the picture does not include Africa because Americans tend to ignore Africa, even when there are Genocides and Wars being waged there.
    The World according to America.

    That was the title.

    The world includes Africa.


    Fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    The World according to America.

    That was the title.

    The world includes Africa.


    Fail.
    Apparently according to America, Africa doesn't exist. If only our cars ran on elephant dung.
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    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Apparently according to America, Africa doesn't exist.
    That must be why Bush pledged some $15 billion in aid to Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScummyD View Post
    That must be why Bush pledged some $15 billion in aid to Africa.
    I was speaking about the picture, not literally. There's the diamond and uranium mines.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    The good points number more than one and good or bad isn't defined by your inability to address or definition of stupid. Sorry.

    Speak to the Founding Fathers about the stupidity of the Declaration, they're the ones that claimed "endowed rights" from "Our Creator". Unalienable rights not given or taken by man. My link appropriate and interesting.

    Interesting you bring this up. It is true of course, Christianity with an historic ability for savage violence. Much of it shaped culture, Christians and their armies shaping the planet. So what?

    Doesn't take a genius to see the differences either. There will be similarities in every religion, Christians say Jewish prayers, Muslims honor a prophet as Christians do. But, no serious theologian makes similarities to Jesus and Mohammed, Jesus was a serious man of peace who died for mankind, his message never one of violence. Sorry for your misunderstanding.

    "All men are created equal" quite revolutionary for the time though...don't you think? I mean, you're using much of these men's spoken "endowed rights"...you're engaged in the freedom of speech and association for example...while typing on this board...correct? Should Hamilton or Jefferson enjoyed the internet under English rule, would words of criticism you speak here concerning religion or state be even permitted? Tighten that chin strap Chief, try to respect those that sacrificed everything so you could chortle off about endeavors you know nothing about. No need to inform me you're a non-american either, I figured that out some posts ago.

    That is why we wrote a Constitution years after that declaration that separate state from church making those personal views irrelevant. This nation founded on Christian principles, endowed rights, and a government governed by the consent of the governed. One of their first priorities was to separate chruch from state but make a law making sure the State never encroach on a citizens right to practice their religion.

    I couldn't care less if you're an Obama sheeple, you are what you are. I'll note you've a serious issue with being called an Obamunist, but then, you feel free to rant about many "Obama haters" even making sure to add a "tea party" comment exposing your own warped prism of perspective. In other words, profiling on your dime is permitted, but, you're gonna be difficult if anyone tries doing it to you?

    Please, no one cares if you're difficult and to be perfectly frank, I'd find you much more difficult if the content of your posts came remotely close to proving you knew what you're talking about.

    Then omit him, give me policy that would succeed where you're argument is concerned.

    Supporting them quietly, not publicly?

    But...those "most moderates" aren't in power in Iran, Syria, Palestine, within the Taliban or al-Qaeda. And when you say most.....a clear 30%+ feel terror attacks are sometimes warranted. There is much sympathy for these jihadists, they receive international backing and facilitation.

    Human rights..fine. US Constitutional rights....sorry.

    I'm sorry, "not fighting the wars" is being done effectively....like Obama's recent 50,000 man surge in Afghanistan...that what you mean by "not fighting the wars?"

    Let me ask you something Plato..is this going to continue? You seem to think comments like this are a valid argument, the clear hatred for Bush...and then you're previously asking me...a possible "Obama hater" not to be difficult. I now find this laughable, I think we should both be able to call it as we see it, the critical jabs not just limited to your text. Furthermore, I find you calling others out on it while you engage in it, a tad hypocritical.

    My turn to be difficult. You claimed to have a solution, and you were admittingly vague doing it. Continue on with your detail first, give your answers based on your "how to engage" post. We can then answer your questions that seem to pretend there is but two solutions, yours....or the policies built from the absolute hatred for 1.2 billion Muslims.

    What is that proposal...exactly?

    I did want something beefier and it was nearly 8 years ago that President George W. Bush delivered the speech that outlined his "vision" for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. June 24, 2002 I believe was the exact date of the speech.

    And on Iran and Syria in the East. But, what of al-Qaeda? The Taliban? Iran?

    Great idea. Their oil as well?

    Something else Bush fought hard for. You sure you hate Bush, you're mirroring his policies.

    The policy in Pakistan is still Bush's and "soft power" initiatives? What like...actually supporting with soft power the voices of freedom that from Iran that Obama refused to support?

    Like to democratic values that have precedence oh like say...not giving our enemies captured aborad rights within our own laws. For example, let's take your nation, Plato, where are you from?
    You seem to be a bit confused. You say I hate Bush and yet you can't help pointing out where I agree with him. Could it be that is because I don't hate him but disagree with him on some things (like his appointment of Cheney and Rumsfeld) and agree with him on others (like his foreign policy in his second term under Condi Rice)? Did you consider that I don't fit your stereotype?

    When you answer my arguments, other than posting drivel, we can have a debate. All that stuff about the US Constitution that totally get what i said wrong as well...

    Where am I from? Why? Do you want to launch an attack on that country? Start a thread and I'll join you, should you have some good points (which wouldn't be hard). I'm from England, where your founding fathers got all their ideas from. It was probably our best achievement to spawn the USA. One of them anyway.

    Try reading what I wrote. It wasn't what you responded to.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And your picture reminded me of this one
    And, in turn, your picture reminded me of this one:

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    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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