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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You can't get on a plane anywhere in the U.S. without a passport.
    you can't get on a plane anywhere in the world with a bomb

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Yet that has nothing to do with age, only with experience.


    Should I turn to the 35 year old with 30 years of experience or to the 65 year old guy with 5 years of experience?

    Now, you're just being silly because it's all you have.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You can't get on a plane anywhere in the U.S. without a passport.
    When was that law passed? I got a plane in Louisiana last year without producing a passport.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    He didn't board the plane in the US, he boarded it overseas. And that's not true anyway. At least not for domestic flights.
    Err - I was about to edit - You can't fly from any country into the US without a passport. On our side alone they ask you for your passport at least twice when you land.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Err - I was about to edit - You can't fly from any country into the US without a passport. On our side alone they ask you for your passport at least twice when you land.
    They ask for it when Americans go to Cananda, too.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Have they stopped stamping passports?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When was that law passed? I got a plane in Louisiana last year without producing a passport.
    PASSPORT APPLICATION & RENEWAL - UnitedStates.org

    U.S. citizens cannot fly into the United States from Canada, Mexico, Central America, South America, the Caribbean, or Bermuda without a valid passport. If you've got a trip planned, note that it now takes 10 to 12 weeks to get a passport using the routine service option. For an extra charge, there's also an expedited service. This will get you on your way in about three weeks.
    This applies to Europe. To my knowledge very few European countries will let you on a plane without a valid passport now.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    PASSPORT APPLICATION & RENEWAL - UnitedStates.org



    This applies to Europe. To my knowledge very few European countries will let you on a plane without a valid passport now.
    I already knew all that. I was referring to your errored post, prior to your correction.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    here's the lawyer and his wife who claim they saw mr abdulmutallab trying to board in amsterdam without a passport

    Flight 253 passenger: Sharp-dressed man aided terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab onto plane without passport (MLive.com exclusive) | Detroit News - - MLive.com

    maybe they're wrong, maybe they're not

    but, either way, napolitano is an idiot

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Then why do intelligence agencies use it? Are they just stupid?


    They don't. From the Bush administration justice dept:


    FACT SHEET
    RACIAL PROFILING


    “It's wrong, and we will end it in America. In so doing, we will not hinder the work of our nation's brave police officers. They protect us every day -- often at great risk. But by stopping the abuses of a few, we will add to the public confidence our police officers earn and deserve.'' --President George W. Bush, Feb. 27, 2001

    “This administration… has been opposed to racial profiling and has done more to indicate its opposition than ever in history. The President said it’s wrong and we’ll end it in America, and I subscribe to that. Using race… as a proxy for potential criminal behavior is unconstitutional, and it undermines law enforcement by undermining the confidence that people can have in law enforcement.” --Attorney General John Ashcroft, Feb. 28, 2002


    Defining the Problem:
    Racial Profiling Is Wrong and Will Not Be Tolerated

    Racial profiling sends the dehumanizing message to our citizens that they are judged by the color of their skin and harms the criminal justice system by eviscerating the trust that is necessary if law enforcement is to effectively protect our communities.

    more ...

    http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2003/J...fact_sheet.pdf
    Last edited by jackalope; 12-28-09 at 01:26 PM.

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