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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Then why do intelligence agencies use it? Are they just stupid?
    Please explain what you mean by this? I think I may know what you mean and if that's the case its far different then what's being discussed here, but figure I'd get you to clarify.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Why is it stupid to have people remove their shoes?

    How do you know that it's accomplished very little?

    You think taking off your shoes is harassment? It takes like fifteen seconds.
    No, it's not harassment. I have no problem with intelligent security, but simple over-reaction to one incident is silly.

    It should be quite obvious to anyone who travels a fair amount that we have a lot of superficial security that really doesn't accomplish much.

    We need intelligent profiling so that we know who to scrutinize more. Enough with the random searches and stuff.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I don't think you've reached the point in your life to know what you do and don't know. Because, you seem to already know everything. Good luck with that.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Please, don't tell us you're a 23 y/o that thinks you got it all figgered out. Please?

    I think this is when you stopped debating and began regressing.

    You do realize that 20 and 30 year old males are in the prime of their life right, which includes mental capabilities.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I think this is when you stopped debating and began regressing.

    You do realize that 20 and 30 year old males are in the prime of their life right, which includes mental capabilities.

    But, not in practical experience. Actual, "street smarts"--for lack of a better term--trumps most factors.

    Picture yourself working in a field. You have two colleagues to whom you can turn for advice. One has 30 years of experience, the other has 5 years. Which one's opinion would you trust more?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Depends. If the one with 30 years of experience is an absolute ****ing moron that has kept his job primarily based on tenure, ass kissing, too costly to get rid of him, whatever other random reason and the 5 year guy actually knows what he's doing, I'd ask the 5 year guy. All things being equal, I'd ask the 30 year experience guy, but very very very rarely do you get a situation where all things is equal.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Depends. If the one with 30 years of experience is an absolute ****ing moron that has kept his job primarily based on tenure, ass kissing, too costly to get rid of him, whatever other random reason and the 5 year guy actually knows what he's doing, I'd ask the 5 year guy. All things being equal, I'd ask the 30 year experience guy, but very very very rarely do you get a situation where all things is equal.
    Well, there ya go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, not in practical experience. Actual, "street smarts"--for lack of a better term--trumps most factors.

    Picture yourself working in a field. You have two colleagues to whom you can turn for advice. One has 30 years of experience, the other has 5 years. Which one's opinion would you trust more?
    Yet that has nothing to do with age, only with experience.


    Should I turn to the 35 year old with 30 years of experience or to the 65 year old guy with 5 years of experience?

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    yesterday on mtp, homeland secty napolitano actually said the system worked

    LOL!

    "everything went according to clockwork," insisted the simple minded secty

    sure, a guy gets a bomb onboard a plane to Detroit and starts to ignite it under his blanket

    word now is he might not even have had a passport

    he was on britain's watch list and not allowed to enter the uk

    the keystone kops now occupy pennsylvania avenue

    these things matter, they accumulate

    they contribute to an overall view of this administration as thoroughly amateurish

    remember when obama trotted out geithner and summers to mtp and ftn to suggest raising taxes on the middle class?

    they're always having to take stuff back

    and now every american is a little more afraid to fly

    good job, fellas (and ladies)

    Al-Qaida links to Christmas Day plane bomb plot investigated | World news | The Guardian

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yesterday on mtp, homeland secty napolitano actually said the system worked

    LOL!

    "everything went according to clockwork," insisted the simple minded secty

    sure, a guy gets a bomb onboard a plane to Detroit and starts to ignite it under his blanket

    word now is he might not even have had a passport

    he was on britain's watch list and not allowed to enter the uk

    the keystone kops now occupy pennsylvania avenue

    these things matter, they accumulate

    they contribute to an overall view of this administration as thoroughly amateurish

    remember when obama trotted out geithner and summers to mtp and ftn to suggest raising taxes on the middle class?

    they're always having to take stuff back

    and now every american is a little more afraid to fly

    good job, fellas (and ladies)

    Al-Qaida links to Christmas Day plane bomb plot investigated | World news | The Guardian
    You can't get on a plane anywhere in the U.S. without a passport.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    He didn't board the plane in the US, he boarded it overseas. And that's not true anyway. At least not for domestic flights.

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