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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Ordering additional screening because of someone's passport, behavior, travel history, or ticket/baggage status: Completely logical (and happens already)

    Ordering additional screening because of someone's name, religion, or terroristy-looking skin color: Absolutely moronic.



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    You acknowledge that you attribute negative characteristics to entire racial or religious groups based on the actions of a few people. Definitionally, you are obstinately devoted to your own opinions and prejudices.
    Please, don't tell us you're a 23 y/o that thinks you got it all figgered out. Please?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    RightInNYC.....did you notice that you racially profiled apdst and he had a problem with it? Lmao. He got angry because you thought it was kind of awkward that a black guy had never heard of Mos Def. Then proceeded to state why profiling Muslims is a good thing. You can't make this type of **** up.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are you one of those black folks who don't like being profiled? I guess hypocrites do come in all colours.
    I one of those black folks that does't like being profiled, but understands that it's because my fellows have shown their asses over the years and can understand the fear and paranoia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I one of those black folks that does't like being profiled, but understands that it's because my fellows have shown their asses over the years and can understand the fear and paranoia.
    Oh so you don't like being profiled and advocate it? You're a hypocrite. Check. Considering that blacks disproportionately commit more murders than whites, would you also get mad if every time there was murder in your area police came knocking at your door?
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    RightInNYC.....did you notice that you racially profiled apdst and he had a problem with it? Lmao. He got angry because you thought it was kind of awkward that a black guy had never heard of Mos Def. Then proceeded to state why profiling Muslims is a good thing. You can't make this type of **** up.
    No, he racially stereotyped me. Was it crucial to the frum security to assume that since I'm black, that I must listen to rap music?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Please, don't tell us you're a 23 y/o that thinks you got it all figgered out. Please?
    I know enough to know that I don't know very much at all. That's the difference between you and I.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    RightInNYC.....did you notice that you racially profiled apdst and he had a problem with it? Lmao. He got angry because you thought it was kind of awkward that a black guy had never heard of Mos Def. Then proceeded to state why profiling Muslims is a good thing. You can't make this type of **** up.
    Of course, and he sees no incongruity there.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I know enough to know that I don't know very much at all. That's the difference between you and I.
    No, I don't think you've reached the point in your life to know what you do and don't know. Because, you seem to already know everything. Good luck with that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, he racially stereotyped me. Was it crucial to the frum security to assume that since I'm black, that I must listen to rap music?

    What is the difference b/w racially profiling and stereotyping? Seems like synonymous terms to me. Both assume characteristics of a person b/c of their race.

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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, he racially stereotyped me. Was it crucial to the frum security to assume that since I'm black, that I must listen to rap music?
    This is what profiling is :

    Racial Profiling: Definition | American Civil Liberties Union

    discriminatory practice by law enforcement officials of targeting individuals for suspicion of crime based on the individual's race, ethnicity, religion or national origin. Criminal profiling, generally, as practiced by police, is the reliance on a group of characteristics they believe to be associated with crime. Examples of racial profiling are the use of race to determine which drivers to stop for minor traffic violations (commonly referred to as "driving while black or brown"), or the use of race to determine which pedestrians to search for illegal contraband.
    This is what stereotyping is :

    stereotyping - Definition of stereotyping | Encyclopedia.com: Dictionary of Business and Management

    Making assumptions about individuals or groups based on information (which may or may not be valid) obtained before the individual or group has been encountered. Once encountered, opinions formed may be based on dress, speech, gender, ethnic origin, nationality, and gestures. Unfortunately, human beings are liable to have selective prejudices towards their fellows, seeing only what they want to see and ignoring factors that do not fit in with their preconceived beliefs. They also tend to assume that all the individuals of a group have the same, or similar, characteristics. Thus: • all graduates are clever • all unemployed people are lazy are two of the stereotypes that have to be resisted in carrying out job selection interviews. See also horns and halo effect.
    Stereotyping refers to the action. Profiling refers to stereotyping when done by law enforcement officials. It is a term. If you think I'm wrong, you're more than welcome to explain the difference.

    Here is an example of stereotyping :

    A large number of black people commit crimes. If you're black you're probably a criminal and should be searched.

    Here is another example :

    A large number of Muslims are terrorists. If you're a Muslim, you have a high chance of being a terrorist and should be searched.
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    Re: Passenger Ignites Explosive on Delta Flight, Al Qaeda Connection Reported

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh so you don't like being profiled and advocate it? You're a hypocrite. Check. Considering that blacks disproportionately commit more murders than whites, would you also get mad if every time there was murder in your area police came knocking at your door?
    Well, either I don't attract that kind of attention, or I live in a mostly white neighborhood, so it doesn't happen much. At all, actually.

    The bloods next door got the pigs comin' by every other day, though. They stopped by here for coffee the other night...the cops that is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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