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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    It costs about 25 grand per year to keep an inmate locked up. That is nothing but a drain on society. Keep him out and he can pay taxes and contribute to society.

    The 3 felonies mentioned were pretty bad. How about someone convicted of writing bad checks three times? Hmm? Life in a cage for that?
    I just can't see Suzy Q. Public getting sentenced to prison once, much less three times, for bouncing three checks down at the local grocery store.

    Besides, that's all academic. Go argue that with your legislature. The law is the law. We can "what if" all night. It means nothing.

    It costs about 25 grand per year to keep an inmate locked up
    Yeah, well... I got a solution that costs around a dollar. But I don't think you'd like it.
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Basically, if one doesn't like the treatment one receives in prison, then one shouldn't break the law.
    Crime comes with occupational hazards, and getting punked in prison is one of them.

    Am I upset he cheated many persons out of money, HELL YES.

    Am I upset that he went to prison, NOPE.

    Am I bewildered that we are even giving this sb sympathy, YES
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    "In my book the term "minor felony" is an oxymoron."

    My brother's father in law has a felony conviction stemming from possessing a joint in the state of Neveda back in the 1960s. He is still required to report this in the state of Georgia. Technically it is a felony to possess a single ounce of marijuana in GA, with enforcement varying widely in this state. If simple personal possession of marijuana doesnt met your definition of "minor" i'm afraid you lack all perspective. Some people get lucky with the courts and find sympathy (aka Rush only having to submit to drug testing), unfortunatly many others are branded convicted felons for the rest of their lives.

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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Regardless the tides are turning with state budgets and prison crowding streching to the breaking point. It was easy and popular for politicians in the 80s and 90s to campaign on getting tough on crime, but when the time comes for them to get tough on their state budgets they will rethink just how much of a threat some teenage pothead reallly is to society after all.

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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Jmills1 View Post
    "In my book the term "minor felony" is an oxymoron."

    My brother's father in law has a felony conviction stemming from possessing a joint in the state of Neveda back in the 1960s. He is still required to report this in the state of Georgia. Technically it is a felony to possess a single ounce of marijuana in GA, with enforcement varying widely in this state. If simple personal possession of marijuana doesnt met your definition of "minor" i'm afraid you lack all perspective. Some people get lucky with the courts and find sympathy (aka Rush only having to submit to drug testing), unfortunatly many others are branded convicted felons for the rest of their lives.
    I thought of that too when the 3 "minor felonies" question was posed. I was thinking in the here and now, however, when I answered. Back in my youth, a joint was a felony. Three joints and out? Hardly seems fair BUT it is the perfect oppertunity to show how society has become softer and softer over the years in regard to crime punishment. I think we can all agree that the laws 30 years ago were extremely harsh and unfair by today's standards. But where do we draw the line?

    People aren't going to prison anymore for 3 joints. They are going to prison because they are a pestulence upon society. And if we keep tolerating and moving the line for the sake of liberal compassion, and give in, rapists, murders, and gangster punks will get a slap on the wrist, an apology for their "poor and oppressed childhood," a pension, a new suit, 200.00, voting rights and a new gun upon their debt being paid to society.

    I ain't with that program. Screw 'em.
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    didn't read the thread, but the title is dishonest.


    CHARLOTTE, North Carolina (Reuters) - Disgraced financier Bernard Madoff is being treated for high blood pressure and dizziness, and was not hurt by another prisoner, a Bureau of Prisons spokeswoman said on Thursday.


    From the link..
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    My oh my. My good liberal, slightly liberal, independent, slightly independent, and anyone weighing in on prisoners at Gitmo friends, where is your Christmas compassion? Forget all the religious 'stuff', where is your feelings and emotions towards those guilty of non-violent crimes.

    Let's pretend for a minute our circus clown of a President is going to bring the most viscious of terrorists here to the US for civilian trials. Now, I know that's tough to imagine as it's so insane but...just pretend that's the truth for a minute while you consider the following point. Oh.....And let's assume the government is smart and sends these men to a civilian prison after conviction.....that is their right as prisoners to be sentenced here....yes?

    Now, should one of these Muslim cats get beat up....punked....whatever you want to call it, as Madoff just did....there would be outrage and a stinking media blitz of anti-Islamicisms, discrimination, how these men should be perhaps protected from the general population behind bars, how they should not be 'singled out', we'd be discussing their 'rights', our lack of 'humanity'. I mean urinating on their Koran became an issue, dogs barking in their faces, this cat Madoff steals money(one of the oldest non-violent crimes in the book), gets actual harm slapped all about him and......I'm hearing "serves you right" from the distinguished and qualified Left.

    Sorry. I ain't buying it for a second. I don't mean your outrage for Madoff, I couldn't care less what happens to Bernie, we all sleep in the beds we make. I'm speaking to the pretend and selective outrage concerning our 'prisons' both here and abroad concerning our wars on militant Islam and in Iraq. I mean the whining and crying that goes on, the accusations of torture, it is crystal clear given the right cirmcumstances, harm being perpetrated on someone doesn't offend you.

    I always knew the outrage was pretended and selective, I hope everyone can see it for themselves given such stark examples.
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Now, should one of these Muslim cats get beat up....punked....whatever you want to call it, as Madoff just did....there would be outrage and a stinking media blitz of anti-Islamicisms, discrimination, how these men should be perhaps protected from the general population behind bars, how they should not be 'singled out', we'd be discussing their 'rights', our lack of 'humanity'.


    I always knew the outrage was pretended and selective, I hope everyone can see it for themselves given such stark examples.
    Excellent points, and right on the money imo.

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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinc Route View Post
    ***** A little Basic Christianity may be in order here OR I presume that most have never been locked up even briefly (?) Think about it.
    Maybe he shouldn't have stolen all that money and showed some christianity himself... I'm not stupid enough to get myself locked up.....

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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Binky View Post
    Maybe he shouldn't have stolen all that money and showed some christianity himself... I'm not stupid enough to get myself locked up.....
    Wow, so all people locked up are stupid? Gotcha. Obviously you don't even know what constitutes a Christian. A Christian is a sinner, who believes that Jesus came down to save them from eternal hell. Bernie Madoff sinned. That does NOT make him "not show Christianity." I can guarantee you've sinned very recently. So how can you judge Bernie when you're a sinner yourself?

    You're riding with a friend of yours whos doesn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign. You are pulled over and the cop searches the car and discovers a joint under your seat. Guess what? You're now officially stupid....and you have the right to remain silent.

    So you're supposed to know everything about everything to avoid being locked up? Some really are clueless on a level that I didn't think a grown adult could be. I would expect responses like this from 8 year olds but adults? Jeez. God help us all.
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