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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    There seems to be a lot of different versions of what his life is like behind bar. I've read he is he head don of all the prisoners and they take care of him.

    I've read he had his face smashed in and several of his ribs were broken.
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You would have to live under a rock not to know what fate you may face in prison these days so it is simple-you do not wanna go there and be subjected to the bad thing? Do not break the law. Seems simple to me.
    Not so much so when innocent people, who didn't break the law, are in prison. Can you read? Look what Don posted. 35 years in prison for a rape he didn't commit. He would have been a PRIME candidate for prison rape and murder because of his crime. Break the law, go to prison. Don't break the law, STILL go to prison. I guess in Kali's little world, NO ONE IS INNOCENT!!! DNA means nothing!!! Lock him up!!

    What was his crime, again? That's right. He didn't break the law, but he sure did time in prison as if he had!

    We owe that man about 1 million dollars for every year he was locked up, minimum. And a certain percentage should come out of the prosecutors pocket!
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Do you really want to sentence someone to life in prison, and to "eat swill and drink sewage" if they're convicted of three minor felonies when they're in their 20s?
    In my book the term "minor felony" is an oxymoron.

    But I appreciate you helping me drive home one of my points. The touchy-feely side of crime and punishment. I applaud you for your compassion. Truly, the world needs more of it. However, I think your compassion is misdirected. I won't dog you out for it for that would be hypocritical of me. Once upon a time, I believed we could make a change in these people too. Obviously, my generation failed miserably in rehabilitating CONVICTS. Just as the generation before me did. Just as your's will.

    Too soon old, too late smart.

    If you know someone, or should you happen to be someone, who has to keep score on just how many felonies you have on the board, I'm sorry if my opinion offends you. But I am certain that by the time a man finally get's assigned his number in prison, he's most likely committed countless crimes before they finally caught up to him. If he gets released and STILL goes out and does enough crime to get imprisoned again, screw him and screw him HARD.

    But to answer your question, yes. Hell yes.

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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    In my book the term "minor felony" is an oxymoron.
    Let's say someone is convicted of stealing a car when he's 18. Then he's convicted of selling marijuana when he's 22. Then he's convicted of drunk driving when he's 25. Does he deserve to spend the rest of his life in a cage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    But I appreciate you helping me drive home one of my points. The touchy-feely side of crime and punishment. I applaud you for your compassion. Truly, the world needs more of it. However, I think your compassion is misdirected. I won't dog you out for it for that would be hypocritical of me. Once upon a time, I believed we could make a change in these people too. Obviously, my generation failed miserably in rehabilitating CONVICTS. Just as the generation before me did. Just as your's will.

    Too soon old, too late smart.
    "Rehabilitating" people for most crimes is pretty easy, as they generally outgrow them on their own. That is, of course, UNLESS they're confined in brutal conditions for most of their life with hardened criminals.
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Let's say someone is convicted of stealing a car when he's 18. Then he's convicted of selling marijuana when he's 22. Then he's convicted of drunk driving when he's 25. Does he deserve to spend the rest of his life in a cage?
    Haven't I already answered this a couple of times?

    I will type a bit slower this time.

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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Haven't I already answered this a couple of times?

    I will type a bit slower this time.

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    Any questions?
    And why wouldn't fining him, having him spend a short time in the county jail, taking away his driver's license, and sentencing him to some community service be adequate? Do you expect the taxpayers to pay for your barbaric punishment?
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And why wouldn't fining him, taking away his driver's license, and sentencing him to some community service be adequate?
    You're asking the wrong person. That's above my paygrade.

    Society determines what crimes will and what crimes won't land us in prison. It is our responsibility to live by those determinations or move to another society that has different standards more in tune with our own


    Myself, I think non-violent crimes need their own classification. Three non-violent felonies, locked up for life. As for violent felonies, two stikes, the cage for life. Three strikes, the needle.

    But that's just me.

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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    It costs about 25 grand per year to keep an inmate locked up. That is nothing but a drain on society. Keep him out and he can pay taxes and contribute to society.

    The 3 felonies mentioned were pretty bad. How about someone convicted of writing bad checks three times? Hmm? Life in a cage for that? Yes, there is a minor felony. Felony does NOT mean violence.

    What about someone convicted of a felony in one state who moves to another in which the exact same action isn't a crime at all? How should that work? He would have a felony conviction for a behavior that his neighbor could be doing every single day. That's one of the problems I have with the justice system in this country. States have different crime statutes. They need to get together on this. If it's illegal Chicago, it should be illegal a few hundred miles away in Minneapolis too.
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    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You're asking the wrong person. That's above my paygrade.

    Society determines what crimes will and what crimes won't land us in prison. It is our responsibility to live by those determinations or move to another society that has different standards more in tune with our own
    No. YOU offered the opinion that people should be locked in prison for life for drunk driving. If you are unwilling to defend your claims, then you should not make them in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    Myself, I think non-violent crimes need their own classification. Three non-violent felonies, locked up for life. As for violent felonies, two stikes, the cage for life. Three strikes, the needle.

    But that's just me.
    You didn't answer my question. You just repeated what you already wrote above.
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