Page 15 of 25 FirstFirst ... 51314151617 ... LastLast
Results 141 to 150 of 243

Thread: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

  1. #141
    Stigmatized! End R Word! Kali's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Last Seen
    08-19-12 @ 12:29 AM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    13,334
    Blog Entries
    7

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Point taken.

    I'd probably be a little more pissed too, especially if it was all or most of what I had, but then you've got to be stupid to put all your money, and a significant amount, in one boat.

    .
    He was a scam artist and did what they do-gain trust, befriend, etc. Some of these people really thought he was a very close friend and I refuse to shame the victims here.

    Why do you try to defend this scumbag? I am really curious.
    ~Following My Own Flow~

  2. #142
    Educating the Ignorant
    zimmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:18 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    14,452
    Blog Entries
    12

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    He was a scam artist and did what they do-gain trust, befriend, etc. Some of these people really thought he was a very close friend and I refuse to shame the victims here.

    Why do you try to defend this scumbag? I am really curious.
    I don't. Never have. I think he is the lowest scum.

    My OP (below) hits on one theme, and our discussion hits on the fact government is involved in just as disgusting Madoff-like schemes that rip people off (with endless bald faced lies) that make Madoff seem like a kid stealing penny candy. Nowhere have I defended Madoff.
    As much as I dislike Madoff, I find it disgusting the prison system is a place where gangs thrive, scores are settled through thug-like behavior, and people cheer from the sidelines.

    It's a place to serve your punishment, pay your debt to society... or should be.

    To have the crap that happens, and is known publicly... and is celebrated is a disgrace.
    .
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

  3. #143
    Educator Frodly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Last Seen
    06-26-16 @ 02:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    684

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Please will some one explain why it is funny or justified that this man was beaten up? He is in prison because he committed a crime, so that he cannot continue to commit those same crimes. The only desire I have is that the justice system insures he is not capable of committing the same crime again. Beyond that, wishing this man any harm is simply immoral!!
    I'm a Tarte, what!! You want some of this??

    To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead. -- Thomas Paine

  4. #144
    Educating the Ignorant
    zimmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:18 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    14,452
    Blog Entries
    12

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Frodly View Post
    Please will some one explain why it is funny or justified that this man was beaten up? He is in prison because he committed a crime, so that he cannot continue to commit those same crimes. The only desire I have is that the justice system insures he is not capable of committing the same crime again. Beyond that, wishing this man any harm is simply immoral!!
    We know it goes on... and my point earlier with Abu Graib was two-fold... the second not made but implied:

    With the press all over our troops for Abu Graib, where no terrorists died, where none had serious injuries, where they were piled up naked and shown photos, and had some psychological games played... where is the press investigating our prisons when there is gang warfare, sodomy...etc.?

    Where is the investigative journalism? I don't see it.

    As stated earlier... they don't like the troops and hated Bush... and were eager to do anything to hammer both.

    .
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

  5. #145
    Sage
    lizzie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    between two worlds
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,581

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    To have the crap that happens, and is known publicly... and is celebrated is a disgrace.
    That sums it up well imo. When we celebrate cruelty to anyone, even the criminal elements of our society, we are no different than those who cheered at the Coliseum.

  6. #146
    Guru
    Skateguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston/Heights
    Last Seen
    02-07-12 @ 08:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,571

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Brings to mind an old saying--"be careful what ya wish for"
    "Don't be particular bout nothin, but the company you keep"

  7. #147
    Guru
    repeter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    California
    Last Seen
    07-15-14 @ 12:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    3,445

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No, I understand what you're saying; I just don't know how it relates to our specific discussion.

    You said laissez-faire economics depends on people like Bernie Madoff, but that isn't true because he operated outside the confines of the law.

    And laissez-faire doesn't mean no government involvement in anything even tangentially related to the economy. It's just a label which loosely describes a complex socioeconomic philosophy.
    The reference I was making to the discussion about Madoff was that you said he was a self-centered person who wouldn't lift a finger if it didn't benefit him directly, and I was just commenting that self-centered people is what the free-market system relies on.
    Veni. Vidi. Vici.
    -Gaius Julius Caesar
    The Only Thing to Fear is Fear Itself.
    -Franklin Delano Roosevelt

  8. #148
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Whitewater, CO
    Last Seen
    04-05-16 @ 06:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    8,260
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Madoff treated for face, rib injuries: report | Reuters


    I don't condone this action, but it couldn't have happened to a better person.
    The article says he was not assaulted. Could this be a cover-up?

  9. #149
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Chicago
    Last Seen
    04-02-15 @ 06:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    8,211

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    The reference I was making to the discussion about Madoff was that you said he was a self-centered person who wouldn't lift a finger if it didn't benefit him directly, and I was just commenting that self-centered people is what the free-market system relies on.
    But you're painting an incomplete and simplistic picture of free-market economics.

  10. #150
    Educating the Ignorant
    zimmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:18 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    14,452
    Blog Entries
    12

    Re: Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    ...I was just commenting that self-centered people is what the free-market system relies on.
    People running the brunt of businesses have to serve their customers; that is far from self centered. They work hard, often sleep at the office, stay up late, have sleepless nights thinking about their business and staff, worry about making pay-roll, and then when they do overcome obstacles and make a success of their business, people believe they have a stake in their commitment and risk... though they've done nothing to earn that wealth. They just want it and expect government to take it for them. That is self-centered.

    The socialist welfare system relies on ignorant, self-centered people who believe they have a right to the wealth generated by the people above... believers that we should "spread the wealth around". What is more self-centered and selfish than that?

    As for Madoff, he is a cheat, and we have such people in all walks of life. The Democrat Party seems filled with people that have a penchant for stealing wealth and running the country into the ground with mountains of debt. They've maxed out the national credit card, but they don't care; somebody else will pay for it... tell me... how self-centered is that?

    .
    Last edited by zimmer; 12-25-09 at 04:34 PM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

Page 15 of 25 FirstFirst ... 51314151617 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •