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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    This bill does nothing to reign in medical care cost inflation and may in fact cause prices to rise, especially for younger people who are already hindered in their income with the recession.

    Things to expect;

    Decreased accessibility for seniors to find doctors.

    A general across the board rise in prices.

    Employers dropping coverage because it's cheaper to pay the fine than pay part of an employees insurance.
    Have you read the bill?

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Have you read the bill?
    I have read many of the provisions in the senate bill, what would you like to know?
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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    This bill does nothing to reign in medical care cost inflation and may in fact cause prices to rise, especially for younger people who are already hindered in their income with the recession.

    Things to expect;

    Decreased accessibility for seniors to find doctors.

    A general across the board rise in prices.

    Employers dropping coverage because it's cheaper to pay the fine than pay part of an employees insurance.

    In other words, same as now.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    In other words, same as now.
    Not true at all, right now there is more flexibility for hospitals, insurers and the insured to choose what they want.

    If anything this limits choice and raises prices faster than the rate of projected medical care cost inflation.
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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    We are all in this together. It's no wonder we can get any real reform with attitudes like this.

    In the end, it is the nation that is "screwed over".
    Reform is in the eye of the beholder. You see this issue as a negative for this country, while others see it as a positive. Funny how that works

    The left wants this, they're in the majority and they're going to get it. Kinda like how the right got things under Bush.

    I find things like the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq to be just as harmful to this country (if not more so) as government healthcare. Yet the right championed these causes and told me to F off for not being a patriot.

    Now that something they find to be just as distasteful to them is passing, they expect me to feel the same. Well, I won't. I have little compassion and absolutely no sympathy for them. Now their ox is getting gored ..good! It's the nature of partisan politics. I'll just sit here and relish the moment

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Reform is in the eye of the beholder. You see this issue as a negative for this country, while others see it as a positive. Funny how that works

    The left wants this, they're in the majority and they're going to get it. Kinda like how the right got things under Bush.

    I find things like the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq to be just as harmful to this country (if not more so) as government healthcare. Yet the right championed these causes and told me to F off for not being a patriot.

    Now that something they find to be just as distasteful to them is passing, they expect me to feel the same. Well, I won't. I have little compassion and absolutely no sympathy for them. Now their ox is getting gored ..good! It's the nature of partisan politics. I'll just sit here and relish the moment
    The only part of the legislation that I have seen as positive is the "pre-existing" elements, but even that was not done well as the insurance companies will raise rates.

    Please share exactly which parts of the legislation you found positive.
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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    The only part of the legislation that I have seen as positive is the "pre-existing" elements, but even that was not done well as the insurance companies will raise rates.

    Please share exactly which parts of the legislation you found positive.
    I oppose the legislation.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    The problem already has multiplied.
    Yes,ever since Medicare and Medicaid were created.
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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Yes,ever since Medicare and Medicaid were created.
    I wonder how the elderly would have done without them. Probably would have made death panels look like childs play.
    Medicare, medicaid and SS were created to address problems in our society. Had those problems not existed those programs would have never come into existance.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not true at all, right now there is more flexibility for hospitals, insurers and the insured to choose what they want.

    If anything this limits choice and raises prices faster than the rate of projected medical care cost inflation.
    How does that work for the 31 million people that can't afford any health insurance.

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