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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    $500B Medicare cuts will have an adverse effect on the elderly.
    Not really - the cuts are from a bloated, wasteful part of Medicare. The Republicans tried cutting it for years.

    But you do get the irony of the sign, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Like these?







    Or one of my faves:

    yup, those were exactly the signs i obviously was referring to

    pretty anti-obama, wouldn't you say?

    what an idiot

    obama, i mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yup, those were exactly the signs i obviously was referring to

    pretty anti-obama, wouldn't you say?

    what an idiot

    obama, i mean
    Right, Obama is the idiot. Not these people. Obama.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    the cuts are from a bloated, wasteful part of Medicare
    oh, they're from the bloated and wasteful parts

    not from all those other parts

    LOL!

    what an idiot

    obama, i mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    oh, they're from the bloated and wasteful parts

    not from all those other parts
    Here, educate yourself. Medicare Advantage is the part that would be cut:

    National Journal Online - Cut Payments To Medicare Advantage

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    oh, so it's medicare advantage that's the bloated and wasteful part

    LOL!

    tell it to the 11 million who rely on it

    unfortunately, the zeroing out of medicare advantage is just the beginning

    we're talking a half trillion dollars of cuts to medicare, medicaid and medicare advantage in obamacare

    Medicare Cuts Stay in Senate's Health Care Bill - ABC News

    that's an awful lot of bloat and waste

    i wonder why teddy couldn't find it in all those years of lion-like roaring

    i guess the last kennedy was just too dumb

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    oh, so it's medicare advantage that's the bloated and wasteful part

    LOL!

    tell it to the 11 million who rely on it
    Are you claiming that these 11 million will lose coverage and be thrown out in the cold?

    unfortunately, the zeroing out of medicare advantage is just the beginning

    we're talking a half trillion dollars of cuts to medicare, medicaid and medicare advantage in obamacare
    Medicare Cuts Stay in Senate's Health Care Bill - ABC News[/QUOTE]

    Aside from the obvious irony of the GOP suddenly whining about Medicare cuts when they tried to cut it or repeal it altogether for years, did you even read the article you cited? I doubt it.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    cuts to med-adv come to less than half of what's contemplated for medicare entire

    it's in the links

    reading is fundamental

    and, hey, how 'bout those 200B of unfunded mandates on our already bankrupt states

    Governors balk over what healthcare bill will cost states - The Boston Globe

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    cuts to med-adv come to less than half of what's contemplated for medicare entire

    it's in the links
    No it's not. In fact, the exact opposite is in your link.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    from your link:

    "Max Savings

    The Congressional Budget Office estimated in December that setting benchmarks for Medicare Advantage private plans to match local fee-for-service levels would save $55 billion by 2014 and $157 billion by 2019. Using a competitive bidding process to set Medicare Advantage benchmarks would save $35 billion by 2014 and $158 billion by 2019."

    from mine:

    "Senators voted 58-42 to reject an amendment by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that would have stripped more than $400 billion in Medicare cuts from the nearly $1 trillion measure."

    read

    sorry, obamacare CUTS a lot more than just med-adv

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