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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

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    You make 14k a year and bought a piece of land for 45K? How and why?
    Living within one's means; frugality; budgetary discipline; self-control; savings.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    BTW here's a question for ya. On average emergency medical costs are around 30-40k, I'll even go as high as 60k. How is it possible for someone like me to own property that cost 45k? And it's fully paid off. Remember, I only make 14k gross per year.

    Bit of info on the land when I bought it:

    15 acres, no electricity, no house, no water.
    If you don't mind me asking, what kind of work do you do?

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've shown how they could afford it. Work more jobs and get rid of luxuries.
    No, you just made a claim, unsupported, and spewed a platitude.


    The difference between individual states doing it and the federal government is that when it's done by the states it only applies to that state. No other state has to recognize it. In order to sue a company you must sue their home base...not just the branch which you live next to. This is when conflicting state laws can interfere. (I know it doesn't sound right but that is still the case of what actually happens) If the federal government does it then it applies across ALL states. There are no conflicting laws.
    Which has no bearing on the costs within the state that had tort reform, yet that state, the ones with tort reform, are doing no better than the few states without. The cost did not go down in those states, so you really haven't answered my question, which was about effectiveness of the reform and not about other states not having to follow it. It isn't a case of people still being sued.


    $920 full coverage for 1 year. What's your health insurance cost you for 1 year?
    About that. Though my car insurance is more.

    *looks around my house and at my bills* I think that I know a little bit about living also. I've paid every medical bill that I have ever had and was responsible for (IE since I was 18). With no outside help. While sure I've never been in an accident or seriously sick I have no doubt that I could still pay for any average emergency medical care that I needed.
    Your doubt is of no concern. Your actual ability is. I'm unconvinced of your claims.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Living within one's means; frugality; budgetary discipline; self-control; savings.
    And why?
    How long did it take you to pay for it?
    I will take a guess and say you were living with Mom while you were paying for it.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, what kind of work do you do?
    Deli attendent at a casino for the last 10 years. Before that I worked mainly in seasonal work.
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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    And why?
    How long did it take you to pay for it?
    I will take a guess and say you were living with Mom while you were paying for it.
    For about the first 2 years yes. That allowed me to get the downpayment needed (along with a loan). Took me 15 years along with selling the trees on it and 5 acres (the property was originally 20 acres).
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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you just made a claim, unsupported, and spewed a platitude.
    Believe it or not. Not my problem.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which has no bearing on the costs within the state that had tort reform, yet that state, the ones with tort reform, are doing no better than the few states without. The cost did not go down in those states, so you really haven't answered my question, which was about effectiveness of the reform and not about other states not having to follow it. It isn't a case of people still being sued.
    It does when the main office is not located with in that state. When considering that most states only have 1-3 insurance companies it's not hard for those companies main offices to be in another state. Which makes the suing process take longer and cost more.
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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    For about the first 2 years yes. That allowed me to get the downpayment needed (along with a loan). Took me 15 years along with selling the trees on it and 5 acres (the property was originally 20 acres).
    So you cheated. You were leeching off the folks, paying no rent allowing you to save money that would otherwise go to paying rent. 14 grand is a lot of money for a kid living at home. Been there.

    So now you have 15 acres and still make $14,000 a year? Real estate has plummetted so what are you going to with it? Not to mention since all the good trees are gone it's value is less.
    Last edited by Dirty Harry; 12-28-09 at 11:09 AM.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So you cheated. You were leeching off the folks, paying no rent allowing you to save money that would otherwise go to paying rent. 14 grand is a lot of money for a kid living at home. Been there.
    Cheating? Hardly, family is better equipped to help their own than society, cheating would be using your neighbors resources to accomplish that goal, voluntary help is not even close to the same thing. But then again you haven't exactly showed the greatest judgement to this point.
    Real estate has plummetted so what are you going to with it?
    Land always has a value, if you are willing to sit on it eventually it gains value, so your point makes no sense whatsoever, unless of course the current reps in Washington keep getting bills like this healthcare turd, Cap and Trade, etc.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Cheating? Hardly, family is better equipped to help their own than society, cheating would be using your neighbors resources to accomplish that goal, voluntary help is not even close to the same thing. But then again you haven't exactly showed the greatest judgement to this point.
    Land always has a value, if you are willing to sit on it eventually it gains value, so your point makes no sense whatsoever, unless of course the current reps in Washington keep getting bills like this healthcare turd, Cap and Trade, etc.
    Leeching off your parents is the worst form. They volunteered their help feeling obligated because you were their son and you took advantage of it to enrich yourself. At least I paid my parents back when I was able.
    Not shown the greatest judgement?
    I have 500k in my 401k, a 550k home paid for and 150k in savings and CDs. All accomplished in less than 20 years. Don't worry about me, my judgement is fine. In your case having a piece of land and nothing else is not the smartest move.

    Do you have health insurance? If not, this bill is for people like you. Not me.
    Last edited by Dirty Harry; 12-28-09 at 11:56 AM.

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