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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    It would work. Too bad the republicans didn't do it when they had the support after 9/11. This is the only country I know where they let you stay illegally.
    In theory I support your position because we should enforce our borders. However, it is unworkable for three basic reasons: 1) Politics; the Dems will never allow this because they are working to legalize these people as potential voters as about 65% would be reliable Democratic voters. 2) It is logistically impossible. We don't have enough federal employees who could begin to tackle the problems. 3) The lawyers and courts would tie this up for decades. Each one would have to be given their "rights" as they are on American soil. Perhaps you have heard of the 9/11 terrorists. They are now afforded the same rights we have as per the U.S. Supremes.

    The only way I know this could be accomplished would be to build a wall around our southern border but it will be vigorously attacked as anti-Hispanic and politically unacceptable. And it would have to be secure in such a way that it could not be breached by tunneling under it.

    The great irony is that Mexico defends its southern border with Guatemala vigorously and anyone coming into Mexico is thrown under the jail. We are probably the only nation in the world that has so little regard for our status as a nation and its borders. One can probably thank Ted Kennedy for this current state of affairs. One can read what he said back in the 1960s when immigration "reform" wasn't supposed to change our national make-up substantially. Of course now, as we can easily see, it was yet another huge Democratic lie as they build their voter base by any means necessary.

    "Senate floor manager and Camelot knight-errant Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, assured jittery senators that "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually." Senator Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, further calmed that august body, insisting "the total number of potential immigrants would not be changed very much." Time has proven otherwise. Average immigration levels before the 1965 amendments took effect hovered around 300,000 per annum. Yet 1,045,000 legal immigrants flooded our cities in 1996 alone."


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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    But that still begs the question: What if families who choose to,
    Well, guess who forks the bill when someone from that family has to get emergency medical treatment? You and I do. Anyways, it is just plain dumb to go without medical insurance, no matter how healthy you feel.

    or out of necessity, are unable to purchase health insurance??
    Provisions are in the bill to provide support for families that cannot afford insurance.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Anyways, it is just plain dumb to go without medical insurance, no matter how healthy you feel.
    dumb or not....should it be illegal?

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeConservativGuy View Post
    dumb or not....should it be illegal?
    No it shouldn't be illegal.

    Just one more unconstitutional law.....

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottSD View Post
    No it shouldn't be illegal.

    Just one more unconstitutional law.....
    Stop, do not troll.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Well, guess who forks the bill when someone from that family has to get emergency medical treatment? You and I do. Anyways, it is just plain dumb to go without medical insurance, no matter how healthy you feel.
    Therein lies the rub. A person's personal decision trumped yet again by the "governmetn who knows what's best for you".


    Provisions are in the bill to provide support for families that cannot afford insurance.
    Translation: more big daddy gubment welfare, as if we don't have enough social welfare spending already. Pathetic.


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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    In theory I support your position because we should enforce our borders. However, it is unworkable for three basic reasons: 1) Politics; the Dems will never allow this because they are working to legalize these people as potential voters as about 65% would be reliable Democratic voters. 2) It is logistically impossible. We don't have enough federal employees who could begin to tackle the problems. 3) The lawyers and courts would tie this up for decades. Each one would have to be given their "rights" as they are on American soil. Perhaps you have heard of the 9/11 terrorists. They are now afforded the same rights we have as per the U.S. Supremes.

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    Wrong. It is entirely possible to deport them. It is done every day. It doesn't take courts or rights. Take away the reasons they come and most will leave on their own.
    You blame the democrats but it's the republicans that want them here for the cheap labor. The GOP blocked immigration reform at every turn.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Take away the reasons they come and most will leave on their own.
    That's true. The laws are on the books to do so. But there is no will in either party to do it.

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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Wrong. It is entirely possible to deport them. It is done every day. It doesn't take courts or rights. Take away the reasons they come and most will leave on their own.

    You blame the democrats but it's the republicans that want them here for the cheap labor. The GOP blocked immigration reform at every turn.
    Gimme a break. The GOP can't do anything to block immigration reform. If the Dems wanted to reform it they would do so but they don't even talk about it.

    This is entirely a problem of Democratic shenanigans and the biggest villain was Ted Kennedy who was not above anything to accomplish his ends including lying through his teeth to escape going to jail on manslaughter charges.
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    Re: Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    Gimme a break. The GOP can't do anything to block immigration reform. If the Dems wanted to reform it they would do so but they don't even talk about it.

    This is entirely a problem of Democratic shenanigans and the biggest villain was Ted Kennedy who was not above anything to accomplish his ends including lying through his teeth to escape going to jail on manslaughter charges.
    Republicans had a long time before the democrats took over to do so, and didn't. That's a simple fact.

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